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Post by Spunk on Jul 22, 2018 0:41:06 GMT
That match wasn't too bad, but it wasn't quite to the degree Sanada/ZSJ was. Still, I guess I have to say Yano/ZSJ didn't bore me either. I just didn't get actively excited for it. Maaan, that's kinda wild to me. I still gotta catch up on the 7/21 show, but it's easily my match of the tournament thus far. Yano is on a different level this year and ZSJ's NJPW run has just been very good imo.
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Post by JDP on Jul 22, 2018 23:07:45 GMT
I think Gedo can stop with the disqualification finishes now. We got it.
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Post by Rangerh on Jul 23, 2018 16:52:06 GMT
Spotted this on reddit, photos of the current G1 Climax competitors in their young years (well in their slightly younger years for some as half of them are not really out of youth, lucky bastards :D ) i.imgur.com/lszLY39.jpg
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Post by chris91 on Jul 23, 2018 16:55:34 GMT
Spotted this on reddit, photos of the current G1 Climax competitors in their young years (well in their slightly younger years for some as half of them are not really out of youth, lucky bastards :D ) i.imgur.com/lszLY39.jpgGreat pic! Minoru is still bae Yesterday i watched Resolution from 2009. Okada, Yoshi-Hashi & Harasawa as a Young Lion, great time. One of my favourite scenes was when Watanabe returned as EVIL in 2015 and nobody recognized him because of the hair lol
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Post by Spunk on Jul 26, 2018 4:16:07 GMT
I think Gedo can stop with the disqualification finishes now. We got it. I dunno if you heard, but he's a GENIUS. There's more ref bumps in NJPW now than there ever was during the Attitude Era.
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Post by thelodger on Jul 26, 2018 4:30:49 GMT
Goto and Ishii tore the house down. What a match. I could not agree more! One of favorite moments is Ishii no selling Goto's chops and it's not until he knocks Goto down that he winces his pain. Two stable mates trying out tough each other, Ishii waits until Goto can't see him feeling his strikes. That whole night may be my favorite night of the G1 so far. Side note and I don't know if anyone else feels this way, but I find myself more invested in this G1 than previous. I have only been really following the product for about a year or two, but I think it's because of the english commentary on all the nights. It's probably because I'm a bad wrestling fan, but Kevin Kelly holding my hand through the tournament has been a real treat.
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Post by kikrusher99 on Jul 26, 2018 6:02:36 GMT
LMAO Tama and Roman Reigns are fighting on Twitter.com
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Post by JDP on Jul 26, 2018 7:23:43 GMT
Funny story about Tama. I've never directly interacted with him once. Yet, I've been blocked by him on Twitter. Twice.
Why, you might ask? Well, honestly I'm not 100% sure but best guess I got is at some point I said G.O.D. wasn't very good and I guess he spends his time looking himself up on Twitter hoping to get mad at something. So far he's yet to lay down some high school level insult game like he had previously done to some military veterans the other day.
I know some people are gonna talk about how cool he is for working people on social media, but honestly most of the tweets make him sound less like a brilliant heel and more like a massive tool.
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Post by Spunk on Jul 26, 2018 8:43:10 GMT
Goto and Ishii tore the house down. What a match. Side note and I don't know if anyone else feels this way, but I find myself more invested in this G1 than previous. I have only been really following the product for about a year or two, but I think it's because of the english commentary on all the nights. It's probably because I'm a bad wrestling fan, but Kevin Kelly holding my hand through the tournament has been a real treat. I think it's because you're newer to this? I can imagine going back and forth between Japanese and English commentary could be weird. I grew up with it just in Japanese and not understanding it at all, to the point where I can't fathom listening to it any other way. I'm at the point where I'm strongly considering just canceling my WORLD sub because it feels so far from something I'm interested in any more. Then again, I've been following since the mid-90's and the style is very, very distant from what it used to be. There's good with that and bad, but my reality is that other promotions are doing a style that's not as much like modern ROH style while NJPW is embracing it.
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Post by Rangerh on Jul 26, 2018 17:20:41 GMT
I think my favorite G1 is still the one from last year. While the english commentary is really good in comparison to what's happening in other promotions and really is a good complement to the matches, the japanese one is still more involved emotionally in the vocal excitement in following the action going on the ring.
Now that said, i am a bit puzzled with Juice Robinson in this G1.
At some point NJPW were happy they managed to successfully push him as a popular face, they even had him beating Jay White for the US belt, the guy seems to be over for the NJPW fans in Japan . But after those 4 matches he had in this year G1 i'm not sure what NJPW is planning with him after that.
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Post by LankyLefty17 on Jul 26, 2018 17:50:48 GMT
The ref bumps and interference are killing it for me this year. There are some really high quality and entertaining matches (the Naito/Omega match was awesome) but the OG Bullet Club stuff is getting rough show after show. I always thought Tama Tonga was under used and had more upside than he was given time. This G1 seemed like it might be a coming out party for him given the visibility of the Cow Palace angle. I was probably wrong given the amount of smoke and mirrors all his matches have had.
Its really tough for me not to watch it with Japan announcers, though I actually think the English announcers are some of the more underrated guys in the business..
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Post by Spunk on Jul 26, 2018 20:02:32 GMT
The ref bumps and interference are killing it for me this year. There are some really high quality and entertaining matches (the Naito/Omega match was awesome) but the OG Bullet Club stuff is getting rough show after show. I always thought Tama Tonga was under used and had more upside than he was given time. This G1 seemed like it might be a coming out party for him given the visibility of the Cow Palace angle. I was probably wrong given the amount of smoke and mirrors all his matches have had. Its really tough for me not to watch it with Japan announcers, though I actually think the English announcers are some of the more underrated guys in the business.. The ref bumps are never ending. I feel like NJPW is entering the Attitude Era, if it already wasn't there. If you think about it, the gaijin are all of the age where they were the perfect age to love wrestling during the Attitude Era and Gedo has given them control over their angles, for the most part. So we're getting Attitude Era nostalgia, which is selling t-shirts like crazy to, get this, people that grew up in the Attitude Era. On top of it, they're literally doing the nWo split angle with somehow more fuckery than they had previously. I'm sorta tapped out here.
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Post by LankyLefty17 on Jul 26, 2018 20:17:24 GMT
The ref bumps and interference are killing it for me this year. There are some really high quality and entertaining matches (the Naito/Omega match was awesome) but the OG Bullet Club stuff is getting rough show after show. I always thought Tama Tonga was under used and had more upside than he was given time. This G1 seemed like it might be a coming out party for him given the visibility of the Cow Palace angle. I was probably wrong given the amount of smoke and mirrors all his matches have had. Its really tough for me not to watch it with Japan announcers, though I actually think the English announcers are some of the more underrated guys in the business.. The ref bumps are never ending. I feel like NJPW is entering the Attitude Era, if it already wasn't there. If you think about it, the gaijin are all of the age where they were the perfect age to love wrestling during the Attitude Era and Gedo has given them control over their angles, for the most part. So we're getting Attitude Era nostalgia, which is selling t-shirts like crazy to, get this, people that grew up in the Attitude Era. On top of it, they're literally doing the nWo split angle with somehow more fuckery than they had previously. I'm sorta tapped out here.
I agree sadly. The Omega/Cody story was interesting and in some ways well told, but it needed to be contained and finished off by the Cow Palace. I didnt think the Attitude era was all bad, but what has always pulled me into Japanese wrestling has been how it was treated more like a sport with grudge matches and clean finishes that worked more towards big match payoffs then screw job angles.
I do think the main matches still have that sense and outside of this BC angle I still mostly enjoy the product. Hopefully this angle runs its course or builds to a better story quickly.
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Post by Spunk on Jul 26, 2018 21:25:52 GMT
The ref bumps are never ending. I feel like NJPW is entering the Attitude Era, if it already wasn't there. If you think about it, the gaijin are all of the age where they were the perfect age to love wrestling during the Attitude Era and Gedo has given them control over their angles, for the most part. So we're getting Attitude Era nostalgia, which is selling t-shirts like crazy to, get this, people that grew up in the Attitude Era. On top of it, they're literally doing the nWo split angle with somehow more fuckery than they had previously. I'm sorta tapped out here.
I agree sadly. The Omega/Cody story was interesting and in some ways well told, but it needed to be contained and finished off by the Cow Palace. I didnt think the Attitude era was all bad, but what has always pulled me into Japanese wrestling has been how it was treated more like a sport with grudge matches and clean finishes that worked more towards big match payoffs then screw job angles.
I do think the main matches still have that sense and outside of this BC angle I still mostly enjoy the product. Hopefully this angle runs its course or builds to a better story quickly.
Kenny and Cody booked their own angle and they instead stretched it out well over a year, had it extend into ROH (which is logical, considering the core NJPW audience in America is the ROH audience) and it feels never-ending. The match at the Cow Palace was good, but honestly, if you have a big, crazy feud culminating in one big, crazy match, putting on a Hardy Boyz trying to steal the show at Wrestlemania on the undercard probably isn't the way. This is why Jericho in NJPW was a real breath of fresh air for his two matches: he brought actual intensity with him. The Omega match at WK and the Naito match had this sense of danger to them that weren't based around "I hope these guys don't get hurt on these bumps" as much as "these guys are going to kill each other." Kenny and Cody should've had a crazy, bloody brawl where they tried to murder each other, instead it was a fairly typical Kenny Omega match with a few big, centerpiece spots. It just didn't feel like the culmination of a giant story line as much as it felt like "we have the spotlight, let's do a lot of stuff while we have it." They aren't clawing for the spotlight anymore, New Japan has given that platform to them. They don't have to fight for attention, they have it. My biggest issue is how far from New Japan's style they've drifted in the last few years. Kenny as a major player has almost entirely changed the promotion's style what feels overnight. Part of what rubs me the wrong way about him is that most of your major gaijin players have always adapted to the promotion's style. Look at Juice Robinson. Juice has adapted New Japan's style while adding his own flourishes, but I don't feel like Kenny and them have adapted at all. New Japan style has always utilized a lot of mat work and a lot of stiff striking, both of which Kenny is flat out bad at, so he doesn't bother doing. Instead he focuses on pacing, workrate and execution, all of which he does well. That's fine, but it's hard not to miss the stuff that Choshu, Fujinami, Masa Saito, etc. were all really good at. That's why I've really been loving ZSJ, Yano and Sanada in this tournament. They all are working in a way that's more of a throwback to what is hilariously considered a more classic style of strong style.
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Post by kikrusher99 on Jul 26, 2018 21:38:38 GMT
Naito vs Tama was really good. This has been a good tourney, dq shit is fine if you aren't expecting Tama to be Masahiro Chono G1 matches, same with Fale (FUCK EM) but yeah, last year was spectacular and the entire year was so good that it's no wonder there's people down this year. To be expected.
Bet y'all would've hated 80s All Japan so much lol.
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