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Post by hungerlow on Jul 28, 2018 19:18:08 GMT
I just wanted to gauge everyone's thoughts and where they all stand / what do ya'll prefer and why?
I'm mainly a player. I never really understood the appeal of simming because videogames have always been a hands-on experience for me, but I do allow the CPU to finish Battle Royals when I get eliminated early.
Although in very recent times I've been much more open to the concept of simming in general. I tried a few simulated fights in EA UFC 3 the other day and found it surprisingly fun to watch. It's not something that I'll take a habit of doing, but at least now I'm getting a better understanding of why simming is so popular.
Thoughts?
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Post by El Marsh on Jul 28, 2018 19:36:12 GMT
The appeal of simming for me is to see edits that I've created in every capacity try to put on realistic and entertaining matches against similar creations from other users. It's a good feeling when hours and hours spent on a single creation are realized by seeing it perform EXACTLY how you want it to in a match.
As for playing, I actually do enjoy playing the game and am committed to eventually unlocking everything hardway in challenge mode. It's just that for me, creation comes first and the editing experience in FPW is pretty damn awesome!
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jc89
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Post by jc89 on Jul 28, 2018 19:42:45 GMT
I've had the games since it came out and I don't believe I've actually played a match. I've always been about simming when it comes to Fire Pro.
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Post by MHUltra on Jul 28, 2018 19:47:06 GMT
Yeah, I really enjoy simming this game. Like the poster above, I like the process of creating a character, trying to get it to "think" and act the way I want to. It's fun to watch the creation in action, tweak logic and moves, until he/she (almost) acts the way you hoped they would.
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thelodger
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Post by thelodger on Jul 28, 2018 19:48:17 GMT
I'm 100% simmer, for a few reasons.
First and foremost, I am objectively terrible at games. Which games? All of them really, but video games more specifically.
Secondly every single wrestling game I have ever played, I always got around to creating my e-fed of original edits. When Fire Pro Returns came into my life, I found it most thrilling that I could tinker and program these characters that have been in my head my entire life to have the match that I have always wanted them to have!
I have more fun marking out to my heel edit pinning my big face with a brass knuckles punch than getting destroyed by a computer, much less another person.
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Post by IamAres on Jul 28, 2018 20:09:46 GMT
I do both, but sim far, FAR more, especially in FPW as I don't even have a controller for PC. And to be honest, I tinker and edit far more than I actually sim. There's just something satisfying about picking moves and punching in numbers and watching that turn into a wrestler with a chesive personality. I've always kinda likened it to gardening - you plant these ideas and trim them and mess with them until they come up just how you want.
The other cool thing about simming is that when you have your guys just right, it's pretty much like watching a real match. You start getting invested, rooting for one guy to make a comeback, being surprised by that kickout. Then you start putting together matches of guys you always WANTED to see wrestle, but never did...that's the good shit right there.
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Post by TigerStripePro on Jul 28, 2018 20:56:04 GMT
Growing up I would rent sport games for my Sega Genesis. I would trade players and try to make the league or whatever sport as balanced as possible then simulate the season. It would bring me great joy if I could get the Detroit Tigers to the ALCS in Triple Play 96.
During college I did not have a good computer or video game system so often times I found myself watching friends play games. I think I have seen Resident Evil 4 beaten 3 times without ever playing it.
Fire pro is the closest I have gotten to those feelings. Simming is life.
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Post by Dawnbr3ak3r on Jul 28, 2018 21:26:47 GMT
I used to be a player back when my friends and I were younger and life didn't really matter so much. Nowadays I've moved on to pretty much only simming, and on the very rare occasion, playing a match or two.
I'm more interested in building my own universe and characters within that universe and watching it all come to life. I can't really accomplish that in any other game.
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Post by Guacamole Anderson on Jul 28, 2018 21:31:25 GMT
I'm mostly a simmer, although I can pick up a controller and play anytime...Fire Pro timing's like riding a bike for me.
When the PS4 version comes out, that will be my fun "playing" copy, while the PC version will continue to be for simming, e-fedding, etc.
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Post by mbxfilms on Jul 28, 2018 21:44:28 GMT
The gameplay is the creation, research, and CPU Logic building to make the edits perform the way you want.
Plus if the CPU on my edits is good, then when I do play, then the AI playing against me will be good too.
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Post by amsterDAN on Jul 28, 2018 21:46:54 GMT
For the first month that I owned FPW, I only played. I was new to Fire Pro and had no idea about the simming scene. I couldn't for the life of me understand what was fun about watching two CPU controlled characters duke it out. Then I made my first two edits and simmed them... I haven't played a match since; not a single one in 2018 so far.
Frankly, I still don't see what's fun about downloading someone else's real-life edits from the workshop and simming those. To me, there's something about knowing what's going on under the hood of your own edits that lends this delicious tension to watching sims. You know what moves can come out... but will they? There's something extraordinarily satisfying to seeing your edits behave how you hoped they would. And I find it is only through simming that edits can take on a mind of their own and go to places you wouldn't have originally decided upon.
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Post by ripper on Jul 28, 2018 21:48:05 GMT
99% simmer. I think I've hooked my PS4 controller up 1 time since I got the game.
Although, honestly, creation takes up a much bigger chunk of time than simming. Downloading edits, tweaking, getting costumes just right, adjusting movesets. I'll spend 2 hours on an edit to watch him have an 8 minute match.
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Post by Nth on Jul 28, 2018 21:52:46 GMT
I actually prefer playing, but since there really is no one around to play with I have to sim more than a play. With Returns I was able to master level 10 difficulty so when I did play I would have to work matches. I'll play until I master the 10 difficulty, then if there's no way to increase the difficulty I will probably be back to simming and working matches. I'll give online a try as well and see if it works well enough to make use of with friends.
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Post by TheDenizen on Jul 28, 2018 22:13:27 GMT
I have simmed tens of thousands of matches in the last 13 years, across FPR and FPW.
I played exactly 3 matches in FPR, and have yet to play any matches in FPW.
Like other posters here, I get a real thrill from creating original characters, setting them up to perform how I want, and then letting them loose on each other for my entertainment.
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Post by otaku2255 on Jul 28, 2018 22:17:49 GMT
As much as I'm 99% a simmer, that realization saddens me a bit. Sure, I love tweaking logic and watching edits perform great matches. However, I really fell in love with Fire Pro through playing the game. The game is way too easy for me to get any real fun out of meaningless matches. I love playing with friends, but I'm overseas and the Internet play is quite beat. I'm really looking forward to Fighting Road so I have a reason to play again.
I enjoyed the Missions because I was playing for a purpose.
If I get really bored, I try to do 4-man elimination tags with the four hardest opponents I can think of (Samoans) against the four weakest I can find, with me playing one of the weaker of the bunch. That's the closest I can get to actual difficulty in this engine. It's far too familiar to me.
That's also why I still prefer KOC to Fire Pro. Playing that game on the top difficulty levels was REALLY hard.
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