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Post by guillotinegustav on Mar 14, 2019 21:02:41 GMT
I restarted last weekend on hard with 16 promotions Raw, Smackdown, Wcw(i am playing wcw), classic WWF(80s), NWA(80's), NJPW, AJPW, FMW, AEW, ECW, NXT, WxW, Womens Wrestling, World class, ImpactLucha, got up to year3 month 8 going to jump back in with carls mod tonight.
Having fun with a a few factions
nWo(hall, Bagwell, Masahiro chono, Norton ..just signed Hollywood too)
4horsemen(Ric, Tully, Windham, luger Arn's not available yet!)
NJ Triad(DDP, Bam bam, Kanyon)
Team canada(Lance storm, Mike awsome, and my GuillotineGustav edit)
A few others workers Norman smiley, Mikey whipwreck, Lodi(who keeps getting injured)
Lex luger went on a 9 month hvy weight belt - reign of terror. Even if he lost he won it right back the next event! watching his matches he was posing like mad....i'll have to check his stats.
somehow.
NJ triad has had some great vs nWo tag matches with NJ triad on top 75% of the time.
my Tully blanchard loaned out to NXT UK got the their belt. Oh and my Masahiro chono nWo member was able to beat Tenryu free agent to take the AJPW belt recently as well.
mikey whipwreck also lost my Jr hvy weight belt to rosemary in the womens divis
Fun times
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Post by adwhizz on Mar 15, 2019 11:23:33 GMT
I don't know what the hell happened, I'm in June of year three, I WAS on a roll for about a year making good money every show, then my light heavyweight champ left the company and now I can barely GIVE away tickets
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Post by DM_PSX on Mar 15, 2019 13:25:21 GMT
I don't know what the hell happened, I'm in June of year three, I WAS on a roll for about a year making good money every show, then my light heavyweight champ left the company and now I can barely GIVE away tickets Like FMW post Hayabusa, or NOAH post Misawa.  How is the rest of the roster popularity wise compared to him? Can you invite people of equal popularity to fill that gap? |
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Post by nickmd on Mar 15, 2019 14:08:19 GMT
I have two versions of two feds I was working on. First was a deathmatch fed filled with horror villains and another was for AEW. The horror fed did rather well for itself as I was able to sign a good amount of the free agents I needed. But popularity-wise it went up maybe two slots in year two. AEW was a bit more challenging since I didn't have things lined up the way I hoped.
Since finding out about the way to remove the cap I started over on both feds. AEW is going much better though I have to find good matchups that don't involve intergender matches. I'm half tempted to try again and remove the women but I'd rather stick with it and see how it goes. If I try AEW again it'll be after the DLC so I can get the official version of Scurll. But the horror fed is by far my best yet. Before I got gun shy on trying to book too big a building if it doesn't have a full house. This time around I go with TV ads and that plus the matchups get me a full house in Medium Hall. I find it funny that if I charge $60 at the rural hall it doesn't sell out yet for the urban one it does. Might end up sticking with urban and see how far it goes. I'm in year two and am currently in 17th. I'm hoping by year three to get it to either 13th or 14th rank.
At first I was bummed that Juniors DLC comes out next month on PS4. But it does allow me to do more of Promoter. I really love the mode and can't wait to see where the feds end up.
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Post by adwhizz on Mar 15, 2019 18:58:36 GMT
I don't know what the hell happened, I'm in June of year three, I WAS on a roll for about a year making good money every show, then my light heavyweight champ left the company and now I can barely GIVE away tickets Like FMW post Hayabusa, or NOAH post Misawa. How is the rest of the roster popularity wise compared to him? Can you invite people of equal popularity to fill that gap? I'm booking 10 card matches with B to S tier talent and barely getting anyone in the crowd. Outside talent no showing for "personal reasons" isn't helping matters |
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Post by privateradio87 on Mar 16, 2019 19:11:40 GMT
If outside talent no-showing is consistent, that's your problem. If anyone no-shows you can lose like a third of the crowd. It's wild. I started sending my lucha promotion out into Japan and got no-showed a ton. I'm building it back up out there with cheap tickets and using minimal outside talent, and when i do use outside talent, I only use people who've shown up consistently.
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Post by OrochiGeese on Mar 17, 2019 6:27:45 GMT
Many of my shows have upward of 5-10 outside talent. And someone almost always tries to no-show for "personal reasons" rather than just because they find the style of the match they are booked in inconsistent with their style. While it's possible that "personal reasons" has to do with their health being low, I have another theory. I think that the outside talent wrestlers may not like when a lot of matches are booked in a style that isn't theirs. There may even be some styles that, if booked on an event that they appear in (even if not their match), cause them to have a higher percentage of a no-show. This is just speculation though.
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Post by DM_PSX on Mar 17, 2019 7:28:00 GMT
Many of my shows have upward of 5-10 outside talent. And someone almost always tries to no-show for "personal reasons" rather than just because they find the style of the match they are booked in inconsistent with their style. While it's possible that "personal reasons" has to do with their health being low, I have another theory. I think that the outside talent wrestlers may not like when a lot of matches are booked in a style that isn't theirs. There may even be some styles that, if booked on an event that they appear in (even if not their match), cause them to have a higher percentage of a no-show. This is just speculation though. Try a test save. Let them leave, note the card. Then book the same card and make some changes. Note the result, etc... Eventually you'll find out what exactly causes the no show. It could just be a roll of the dice too. There has to be checks and balances so you can't just rely on outside invites. There needs to be an incentive to focus on YOUR workers. See if the same card gets the same results. |
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Post by OrochiGeese on Mar 17, 2019 8:08:34 GMT
To a degree I think it is a roll of the dice. My guess is that outside wrestlers don't like events run under certain conditions (whether it's something in their match or in the other matches) but it isn't 100% certain that they will back out just because there is something that they don't like.
I base that theory on my method for running shows.
Since we're not aware of all the rules yet, I refuse to let my events (and fun) be ruined by what seems like random no-shows. So I always create a new save right after I finish booking the shows (and after I loan my remaining wrestlers to other promotions) and right before I try to run the event. Then I try to run the event but will exit out if someone no-shows. Then I re-load the save file, and try again.
The thing is, I don't always get the same wrestlers no-show each time. A wrestler that will no-show one attempt at running the same event won't always no-show for my next attempt. That tells me that they are unhappy with something but aren't guaranteed to no-show.
Eventually I end up getting an attempt where no one no-shows and I run that one. This can take a while 😀
I do agree that it's a good idea to have some limitations on us always bringing in outside talent beyond just money. But I wish that the messages in the game (when the no-show is announced or in the Help screen) were clearer as to what the problems are that these wrestlers have which causes them to no-show.
I hope none of the wrestlers that I loan out no-show. It would be interesting if they do and my fed gets a bad rep. Then I could find a way to try to negotiate with them to work other shows if they are less willing to.
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Post by bxnes on Apr 14, 2019 13:55:47 GMT
HEY I NEED MORE DIARIES TO READ
K THANKS
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Post by sohodoobsz on Apr 15, 2019 20:27:07 GMT
So is their an actual solution to talent no-showing your events? I've had it happen to me twice, most recently was the Alex Anderson or whatever his name is, guy whos usually in the Free Agents America category. Luckily I had only brought him in for one show this time.
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Post by OrochiGeese on Apr 15, 2019 21:22:20 GMT
I think we're all still figuring out what the mechanics are of a no-show.
What I've noticed so far is this. Wrestlers tend to no-show when:
1) You put them in a match that has an "audience ranking style" that isn't their style.
2) You put them in a match on a show that has a lot of matches of an "audience ranking style" different from theirs. Just because the match you put them in has the style they work doesn't mean they approve of your overall promotion style or the fact that the majority of matches feature styles they don't like.
3) You put them in a match tagged with a wrestler who is in a different faction in the same organization.
Possible extra idea: Their health is too low or their trust rating with their promotion is low.
There may be other considerations like your promotion's or wrestler's popularity in that region. Maybe they want to be invited to your show but don't like who the opponent is cause their popularity is too low.
It's very confusing and frustrating when they no-show though.
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Post by sohodoobsz on Apr 16, 2019 2:37:06 GMT
I think we're all still figuring out what the mechanics are of a no-show. What I've noticed so far is this. Wrestlers tend to no-show when: 1) You put them in a match that has an "audience ranking style" that isn't their style. 2) You put them in a match on a show that has a lot of matches of an "audience ranking style" different from theirs. Just because the match you put them in has the style they work doesn't mean they approve of your overall promotion style or the fact that the majority of matches feature styles they don't like. 3) You put them in a match tagged with a wrestler who is in a different faction in the same organization. Possible extra idea: Their health is too low or their trust rating with their promotion is low. There may be other considerations like your promotion's or wrestler's popularity in that region. Maybe they want to be invited to your show but don't like who the opponent is cause their popularity is too low. It's very confusing and frustrating when they no-show though. Great post! Lot of information in that that barely wouldve notice myself. Its worth mentioning though, that the Anderson fellow's style is Kings Road, which is also the style of my promotion and most of my talent. Which is why I thought it'd be a perfect fit. Boy was I wrong, LOL! |
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Post by DM_PSX on Apr 16, 2019 2:40:44 GMT
Some of those things should come up during the card making phase, and not the day of the show, unless you are booking Sid. When you finalize the match you can see a "that don't work for me, Brother" picture of Hulk Hogan.
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Post by OrochiGeese on Apr 16, 2019 4:28:12 GMT
]Great post! Lot of information in that that barely wouldve notice myself. Its worth mentioning though, that the Anderson fellow's style is Kings Road, which is also the style of my promotion and most of my talent. Which is why I thought it'd be a perfect fit. Boy was I wrong, LOL! Yeah, that's why I feel like there's some other hidden factors at play beyond audience style. Do you know what their health was before the show? Or perhaps what their Trust was with their promotion? It's also possible that EVERY outside wrestler has like a "no-show" meter with at least some minimum percentage of no-showing and other factors plus randomness change that rate. There's a reason why I think that is the case based on my experiences: I don't tolerate no-shows (mainly because we aren't given any warning in advance and so we can't adequately plan for it) so I always save my game before the event starts. If I get a no-show (or multiple ones), I reload the save and keep doing this process until invited wrestlers are on the show. The same wrestlers don't no-show each time I reload the save. That means that there is at least some degrees of randomness here otherwise they would act the same each time I reloaded. Some of those things should come up during the card making phase, and not the day of the show, unless you are booking Sid. When you finalize the match you can see a "that don't work for me, Brother" picture of Hulk Hogan. LOL we should be presented with the Hogan clause right from the start. We should also be given access to the schedule of all softball games in the general area if we're booking Sid. We really should be given more notice of why they aren't coming. Even if they say something like: "I'll sign to be on this show but if _____ happens, I'm going to no-show" is more fair than what we get now. |
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