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Post by craziej2k on Oct 9, 2018 17:02:53 GMT
everyone missed that I spelt Enziguri wrong!
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Post by Zealot on Oct 9, 2018 17:14:10 GMT
From the wiki page
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Post by craziej2k on Oct 9, 2018 17:21:22 GMT
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Post by ripper on Oct 9, 2018 17:59:24 GMT
I really wish I understood the distinctions between a enzuigiri and other jumping kicks. Sometimes it seems very arbitrary.
So, MMA move names. They suck right? Anyone got any good suggestions for these? I've changed like half the armbards to some Kimura, Bodyscissors Kimura, or Rolling Kimura. I have no clue if I'm right.
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Post by dnmt on Oct 9, 2018 18:43:48 GMT
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Post by Senator Phillips on Oct 9, 2018 18:59:24 GMT
The Shoulder Hold from face up at head and top guard should be renamed Arm Triangle. Standing Shoulder Hold as Standing Arm Triangle, and you can either go with Rolling Olympic Hell or Rolling Arm Triangle for the Tamon Honda variant from front grapple.
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Post by Zealot on Oct 9, 2018 19:00:51 GMT
I really wish I understood the distinctions between a enzuigiri and other jumping kicks. Sometimes it seems very arbitrary. Main difference is that Enzui (medulla oblongata) refers to the back of the head. Enzuigiris also have a foot lead where they step or hook their lead foot on the opponent and connect with the other. A Gamengiri (Gamen being Japanese for "face") is just a jumping high kick to the side of the head without the lead foot step or hook to the opponent. See Toshiaki Kawada for example. |
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Post by kokushishin on Oct 9, 2018 19:13:00 GMT
Arm triangle is an offshoot of kata gatame.
Chickenwing Armlock is more universal, unless you insist on having 20th century nomenclature or something to that effect. Enzuigiri is colloquially "Back Brain Kick"
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Post by ripper on Oct 9, 2018 21:26:26 GMT
No I mean there are a lot of ones i think are kimuras. I still have a ton of cross armbars and fujiwara armbars too. |
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Post by dnmt on Oct 10, 2018 6:48:55 GMT
I really dove into this tonight and changed a lot more than I thought. A lot of moves either have unnecessary qualifiers or simply made up terms (Elbow Stamp)?
One thing stumping me is the Double Wrist Arm Sault. What is that actually supposed to be?
EDIT - found something?
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Post by kokushishin on Oct 10, 2018 7:19:59 GMT
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Post by dnmt on Oct 10, 2018 13:18:22 GMT
Thanks. I googled “Armsault” and that is a thing. But I still don’t buy Elbow Stamp. I can’t find a single case of that phrase being used outside Fire Pro lol. I changed the ones to the head to “Bionic Elbow” and the ones to body parts to Elbow to Neck, Elbow to Arm, etc. I’ll post as many of the changes as I can recall later. |
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Post by kokushishin on Oct 10, 2018 19:55:24 GMT
You're adding specificity where there is no need, and it doesn't really fit. The Bionic Elbow, at least a proper Rhodes style one, is a crown of the head attack.
And remember, this is coming for someone who absolutely will shred somebody for confusing a rana invertida for a Manami roll, and bought two books just to try and reconcile a Turkey Wing argument from 1999. (Would have been 3 but Borders went boom and the last one hasn't shown up on Kindle last I checked.)
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Post by craziej2k on Oct 10, 2018 20:40:41 GMT
I spent about a minute trying to see if I knew what type of wrestling move a turkey wing was before I twigged. X(
Also is there a difference between a Fujiwara armbar and a wagitame(sp?) or is it the same thing?
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Post by dnmt on Oct 10, 2018 20:49:54 GMT
You're adding specificity where there is no need, and it doesn't really fit. The Bionic Elbow, at least a proper Rhodes style one, is a crown of the head attack. And remember, this is coming for someone who absolutely will shred somebody for confusing a rana invertida for a Manami roll, and bought two books just to try and reconcile a Turkey Wing argument from 1999. (Would have been 3 but Borders went boom and the last one hasn't shown up on Kindle last I checked.) I am referring to those crown elbows. One was called "Elbow Stamp", the other Elbow to the Crown. Based on this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_wrestling_attacks#Bionic_elbowI feel comfortable renaming them to Bionic Elbow or perhaps 12-to-6 Elbow. The ones I renamed Elbow to Neck, Elbow to Arm and Elbow to Leg were the Elbow Stamp (Head), etc. I just don't understand what an Elbow Stamp is and can't find a single source for that name otherwise lol. |
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