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Post by crippler19 on Aug 22, 2018 12:15:43 GMT
As much as I was looking forward to Fighting Road I’m going to seriously have to thinking about it now.
What’s the easiest way to stop the game from updating? Put Steam into offline mode?
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Post by heelsinc on Aug 22, 2018 12:45:22 GMT
As much as I was looking forward to Fighting Road I’m going to seriously have to thinking about it now. What’s the easiest way to stop the game from updating? Put Steam into offline mode? Will we not be able to use the workshop if in offline? Probably can set it to not autoupdate.
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Post by kmmouse on Aug 22, 2018 13:40:41 GMT
Oof, that's rough. :C I guess I'm just going to have to deal with it, then...
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Post by view619 on Aug 22, 2018 14:09:29 GMT
As much as I was looking forward to Fighting Road I’m going to seriously have to thinking about it now. What’s the easiest way to stop the game from updating? Put Steam into offline mode? Set the game to ask before updating. Then go into offline mode whenever you want to play; you won't be able to use the workshop but it's a small price to pay (imo) for what you keep. Until the update, you have time to pad out your rosters before being required to take these precautions.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 14:15:44 GMT
There will be a way to share edits without the workshop.
I wasn't going to release something like that because circumventing the workshop meant that pirates would potentially be able to share edits. At this point, I don't care if they can...
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Post by view619 on Aug 22, 2018 14:25:13 GMT
Looks like offline won't be missing out on anything after all. Especially when you see exactly how edit sharing will work. 😃
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Post by Old School Oni on Aug 22, 2018 14:31:19 GMT
Are there any solutions that prevent us from having to make Sophie's choice? Like a way to have two versions of Firepro (one updated, one not), or using multiple save files (I know, very frowned upon, but I'm grasping at straws)? Or any mods we do believe might work with the update or that other modders have a better chance of fixing quickly while you're tied up?
I'm struggling because I want the new content, but I don't think I can go back to playing vanilla. I could probably live without a lot of the great mods, but I don't know that I could live without custom edit parts, Ace's attire extension, custom arenas/nameplates, and a proper royal rumble mode. Honestly, there are probably other "must-haves" if I were at my home PC and could see the ton I have checked. The mod suite has added so much value to the game - arguably more for me than new moves, new costumes, official edits, a fighting road storyline, and promoter mode. But I hate to choose as I see a ton of value in those things.
FWIW I am willing to help anyone competent if there's anything I can do. I admit to not finding the time to view the mod tutorials but I could shift from making edit parts to that (instead of custom moves as I had planned to do after my September vacation). All my mod experience is dated and was in python not C#, although I've made a couple of very minor games in Unity just to start learning some of the concepts. I'm like a D- student at it but willing to do what I can - grunt work, testing, etc., if anyone plans to take up the cause. I was a prolific modder in my game in my day, though being self-taught, my code was often very clunky. But I'm totally not above spending most of my weekends trying to figure it out.
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Post by Old School Oni on Aug 22, 2018 14:33:57 GMT
Looks like offline won't be missing out on anything after all. Especially when you see exactly how edit sharing will work. 😃 That sounds both mysterious and encouraging. But wouldn't there still be issues with not being able to get the story mode or eventually promoter mode? Even if we could get the new edit parts from the NJPW pack, seems like there would still be a lot of content we'd be missing. FWIW, I'd be willing to pay Spike for the new content and prove that I had done so before being allowed any off-book sharing. I want them to succeed and have the money set aside for about anything they can put out (I've literally budgeted $250 for DLC for this game) - but I want it all. :(
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 14:46:17 GMT
Are there any solutions that prevent us from having to make Sophie's choice? Like a way to have two versions of Firepro (one updated, one not), or using multiple save files (I know, very frowned upon, but I'm grasping at straws)? Or any mods we do believe might work with the update or that other modders have a better chance of fixing quickly while you're tied up? I'm struggling because I want the new content, but I don't think I can go back to playing vanilla. I could probably live without a lot of the great mods, but I don't know that I could live without custom edit parts, Ace's attire extension, custom arenas/nameplates, and a proper royal rumble mode. Honestly, there are probably other "must-haves" if I were at my home PC and could see the ton I have checked. The mod suite has added so much value to the game - arguably more for me than new moves, new costumes, official edits, a fighting road storyline, and promoter mode. But I hate to choose as I see a ton of value in those things. FWIW I am willing to help anyone competent if there's anything I can do. I admit to not finding the time to view the mod tutorials but I could shift from making edit parts to that (instead of custom moves as I had planned to do after my September vacation). All my mod experience is dated and was in python not C#, although I've made a couple of very minor games in Unity just to start learning some of the concepts. I'm like a D- student at it but willing to do what I can - grunt work, testing, etc., if anyone plans to take up the cause. I was a prolific modder in my game in my day, though being self-taught, my code was often very clunky. But I'm totally not above spending most of my weekends trying to figure it out.
There absolutely will be mods that work...unfortunately it's all tied up in a big package with mods that don't work...so they're useless essentially until the whole thing is fixed.
Other users DO NOT have my permission to fix the mod suite. It just creates multiple versions of the mod suite and makes everything confusing for everyone. You will have to wait until I get around to it, and time is not looking like something I'll have an abundance of, so you could be waiting until around Christmas time when I'm off.
We all want the new content and the mods, but Spike decided to back the PS4 version and leave us out to eat shit, so there's not much I can do. If you're upset, e-mail Spike and let them know what you think of their decision to push an inferior, bug riddled version instead of supporting those who have supported them since day one.
I'm of the opinion that the base game isn't even good enough to continue playing without mods. It's FPR 1.5, it's not even good enough to be FPR 2.0...it had a ton of potential and I defended it to the death when it was in early access, but now that it's out of EA and we're being charged for extra content, it's a pretty colossal disappointment, and the mods fixed most of that...so when it comes down to my content or their content...I'm sticking with mine every time.
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Post by view619 on Aug 22, 2018 14:48:55 GMT
Looks like offline won't be missing out on anything after all. Especially when you see exactly how edit sharing will work. 😃 That sounds both mysterious and encouraging. But wouldn't there still be issues with not being able to get the story mode or eventually promoter mode? Even if we could get the new edit parts from the NJPW pack, seems like there would still be a lot of content we'd be missing. FWIW, I'd be willing to pay Spike for the new content and prove that I had done so before being allowed any off-book sharing. I want them to succeed and have the money set aside for about anything they can put out (I've literally budgeted $250 for DLC for this game) - but I want it all. :( It's (hopefully) a temporary solution until Carl is able to look at the update and make corrections to the mods. So, you should only be missing out on the update and Njpw dlc. If we're being honest, Promoter mode is unlikely to be released until December at the earliest. Remember, they haven't worked on it since earlier this year, and resolving bugs plus supporting the Njpw dlc for both console and PC are going to be much higher priorities. I would be weary of the quality if they released before then. Hopefully their decision to leave early access and push for console before they were ready doesn't haunt them too badly.
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Post by heelsinc on Aug 22, 2018 15:12:46 GMT
Hey carl does your frustration mean moves packs are coming back? 😁
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Post by view619 on Aug 22, 2018 15:24:51 GMT
Hey carl does your frustration mean moves packs are coming back? 😁 This is not an answer to your question, but a suggestion to join the mod suite discord server.
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Post by heelsinc on Aug 22, 2018 15:27:34 GMT
Hey carl does your frustration mean moves packs are coming back? 😁 This is not an answer to your question, but a suggestion to join the mod suite discord server. I am on there has there been an tutorial posted I'm super dumb with computers until I get a step by step :)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 15:32:42 GMT
Here's the flat out truth...
If I get too far behind, the ModSuite may NEVER get updated. If they dump this NJPW garbage on us in September, and then the Fire Promoter DLC comes out in November or early December, I may just give up on it entirely...as I'd be updating for the NJPW stuff, all of it's updates to fix whatever asinine bugs they left in it, then the Fire Promoter DLC and whatever updates they release for that...it could potentially become a wall I just don't care to climb.
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Post by crippler19 on Aug 22, 2018 15:48:26 GMT
Here's the flat out truth... If I get too far behind, the ModSuite may NEVER get updated. If they dump this NJPW garbage on us in September, and then the Fire Promoter DLC comes out in November or early December, I may just give up on it entirely...as I'd be updating for the NJPW stuff, all of it's updates to fix whatever asinine bugs they left in it, then the Fire Promoter DLC and whatever updates they release for that...it could potentially become a wall I just don't care to climb. Unfortunately that’s what I was thinking would happen. At this point I don’t expect the first DLC to NOT have bugs so even if you were able to find time at some point to update the suite there’s no guarantee it wouldn’t be broken by a bug fix soon after. So why bother? Hopefully it’s not a complete disaster but we thank you for what you’ve done so far. Best of luck with school.
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