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Post by El Marsh on Oct 20, 2019 15:43:08 GMT
I agree with Zealot that Thursday games should be banned in the NFL, save for Thanksgiving and the season opener. Players get hurt too often. But to the NFL, it's all about profit. They don't give a fuck. Prime example being all of this talk about making the season LONGER
It's absolutely ridiculous, even if you cut down the pre-season
Have you ever noticed how NCAA football has a 12 game regular season with two bye weeks thrown in per team? The NFL has a 16 game regular season with just the one and they want to make the season longer. Bigger, faster, stronger, longer, and just the one week off during the grind. What kind of sense does that make?
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Post by Zealot on Oct 20, 2019 16:28:48 GMT
An 18 game regular season and Thursday Night Football can't coexist. The probability of retaining any star players to profit off it would be low and I seriously doubt the NFLPA would even come to terms with it. The CBA expires after next season and I feel like that will be a serious point of contention. May be fireworks regarding that and other stuff despite what the media has reported as productive meetings.
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Post by Timberwolf on Oct 20, 2019 19:04:43 GMT
I miss the days when it used to be just Sunday afternoon games along with Monday night football.
Back then, only the elite teams got to be showcased on prime time.
Now with Thursday night football, every team now gets at least one prime time game.
Who wants to watch a shit team play in prime time? Yeah right.
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Post by OrochiGeese on Oct 20, 2019 20:40:12 GMT
I agree with everything you guys are saying. I don't follow the modern-day NFL as a fan but rather as an observer. And I'm aware of the NFL's push for more games, to the detriment of just about everyone but NFL owners and TV networks. And even they may not benefit in the long-term.
I used to be a very big football fan back in the early-mid 90's. The Joe Montana/Jerry Rice 49'ers were my favorite team because watching them made me initially love football. (I still carry a little tension against the Cowboys, Packers, and Falcons for eventually dethroning the 49'ers!) It was my favorite sport for a while.
I'm not entirely sure what happened. Either the way the NFL presented itself changed in or I started noticing something I had not before. Either way, I don't follow the NFL anymore. It became a little tiring for me.
There is a line in Family Guy - during one of the flood episodes - where they are discussing their favorite movies. Peter mentioned he never liked Godfather 2. The rest of the family jumped down his throat (not literally, it wasn't a cut-away). His response to the questioning of why he didn't like it was that "it insists upon itself."
That is kind of how I feel about the NFL. It insists upon its own importance (as a sport and to American culture) to the detriment of just about anything else: especially player safety. And the writing on the wall about seemingly expotentially rising CTE as a result of the sport should make any company consider the safety of its athletes. Even a heartless person who doesn't truly care about people and just money should at least have some rational self-interest in realizing that their business they want to sustain over the long term that depends on its athletes can't work if the athletes are getting hurt. More football players are retiring early as a result of concussions and concerns about CTE. More potential football players seem to be reconsidering their choice to go into the NFL. That isn't good for business. But I think the NFL may be afraid to truly recognize that. The more concessions they show toward the rising head injuries, the more they potentially open themselves up to lawsuits based on what knowledge they have (and had) that the sport could be made safer.
And I know JR's line applies to football: "It ain't ballet." I'd never tell someone not to play (or watch) football if they really want to. But there are ways to acknowledge the risk of football (or boxing or MMA or even basketball) without making things worse. The NFL seems hellbent on going the opposite direction.
Over the past few years, the NFL wants to have more games: thereby increasing the odds of injuries not just due to more games, but the decrease of rest between those games. It's like the people deciding this already have CTE. (and the NBA is stupid for also wanting to increase games when the past few playoffs have been marred by major injuries: many of which caused by a lack of rest between games.)
I still respect and even like football as a sport for the strategy and occasional beauty of the game (I love interceptions, most of all) but can't stand the modern day NFL's insistence on itself without any self-awareness. I also hate the kiss ass treatment it gets from the media and culture.
I can't stand how TV networks bend over backwards to accommodate it either. One reason I started to hate the NFL and the NFL's preferential treatment was because Fox completely jobbed out Futurama to it in the late 90's. Unless there's a national emergency or something of national importance, there's no reason a TV show with an hour of lead-in commentary should be allowed to cut into like three other shows. There's even less reason that analysis of a game that already happened should be allowed to cut into a set TV schedule for a show entering a new season. But because the NFL presents itself and is accepted as "must see TV," it gets away with what it wants. I get the money that it brings in but it has a clout that it doesn't deserve. It contributed to souring me on the sport as a whole.
I can't imagine a grueling NFL season being given even more games, and more nights per week. A team playing on Sunday and then Thursday or Thursday and then Sunday is horrific. Adding even more Sundays makes it worse.
Anyway - that's just my reaction to all of this.
Side note: The first time I ever "simmed" a video game was one of the PSX football games. I think it was Madden '98. I also played Madden '93 more than any other sports video game on SNES.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2019 21:16:39 GMT
Who wants to watch a shit team play in prime time? Yeah right. Even bad teams have their fans. Side note: The first time I ever "simmed" a video game was one of the PSX football games. I think it was Madden '98. I also played Madden '93 more than any other sports video game on SNES. I think the first game I ever simmed was Tecmo Super Bowl. To be honest I think I've spent more time simming that one than actually playing it.
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Post by El Marsh on Oct 20, 2019 22:44:04 GMT
Perhaps it's not the most popular opinion but I dislike ALL prime-time games. I dislike the idea of changing my schedule to watch something that I can see at a more reasonable time any other week. I don't particularly enjoy trying to stay up to 11pm on nights where I have to leave the house at 5am the following morning. Yeah, it's good for exposure and money and all of that shit but it's not fun and I usually don't finish those games, especially if it's on a Monday or a Thursday night when I've been up since 3-4 am. Sure, I don't have to watch the games but having watched like 90% of Chiefs games since 1992, it would be kind of weird to just drop the habit, even with the inconvenience a couple of times (or 5 >_>) a season.
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Post by Timberwolf on Oct 21, 2019 22:37:53 GMT
I work 3rd shift (11pm to 8am central), so I dislike prime time games as well.
I go to bed at 2pm and wake up at 10pm to get ready for my shift. If the Packers have a noon game, I'll watch it, then go to bed after it's over around 3. Losing an hour of sleep won't kill me.
I don't watch the late afternoon or prime time games though. Which means I'll miss the next two Packers games because one is prime time and the other is late afternoon.
This applies to baseball and basketball as well. I only see my Brewers and Bucks on TV if I'm off work that night.
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Post by El Marsh on Oct 31, 2019 4:33:03 GMT
The Washington Nationals win what has to be one of the single weirdest World Series ever. 7 games, all won by the visiting team. The Nationals took the first two games, had a day off to travel, the Astros took the next three games, had a day off to travel, only for Washington to take the final to games. The Nationals were also the oldest team in baseball this season and frankly, not expected to do much of anything in a NL East that was supposed to be all Braves and Phillies (though in that respect, the Braves DID win the division). They certainly weren't expected to do anything after going 19-31 through the first two months of play but......they kept scrapping and found themselves with a wild card big, not losing a postseason game until Game 3 of the World Series. They faced a total of 5 elimination games during this postseason and trailed in all 5 of them before eventually winning. "Unlikely" doesn't even begin to cover it.
Personally, I'm glad to see guys like Scherzer and Howie Kendrick get their first rings. Scherzer was already comfortably in on the side of being a prospective Hall of Famer but the ring and a strong postseason pretty much cements it for him imo.
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Post by OrochiGeese on Oct 31, 2019 7:34:09 GMT
The Washington Nationals win what has to be one of the single weirdest World Series ever. 7 games, all won by the visiting team. The Nationals took the first two games, had a day off to travel, the Astros took the next three games, had a day off to travel, only for Washington to take the final to games.
They faced a total of 5 elimination games during this postseason and trailed in all 5 of them before eventually winning. "Unlikely" doesn't even begin to cover it. Wow, that is an incredibly unusual series for any sport with a postseason! All away team victories and a Champion team that almost lost it all on 5 occasions!? I don't even get how they pulled through! 😲
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Post by BakFu on Nov 3, 2019 14:06:10 GMT
Congratulations to the 2019 RWC champ Springbocks! What a great tournament, the Bocke were just a bit too much for the strong English side to handle. Hopefully between this great tournament and sevens increasing popularity, rugby will continue to grow in popularity.
One of my favourite matches of the tournament was Wales vs RSA in the semifinal, a close, physical, meat grinder of a match that RSA barely squeaked a win out of. Faf de Klerk, RSA’s shit disturbing scrum half was the man of the match for me after this little tussle! Ball looked like he was going borrow a Scottish favourite for de Klerk, the ol’ Glasgow kiss, but got his shit together before crushing the little guy!
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Post by NSL on Nov 7, 2019 6:00:05 GMT
I really loved this Rugby World Cup. Japan were phenomenal hosts, embraced rugby culture to levels I haven't seen before, and just the tournament overall was fantastic, beyond words. I still can't believe it's over. Even when Typhoon Hagibis forced a couple games to be cancelled, there was the Canadian team helping to repair the damage. I really wanna see the semifinals and that England/South Africa final again.
So, yesterday was the 150th anniversary of college football's first game between Rutgers and Princeton, which was won by Rutgers 6-4 in a game that clearly didn't resemble the football we know now. But, what I didn't know was that another local college had imprints in the birth of the sport.
Stevens Institute of Technology, in Hoboken, NJ, some 7 miles from where I live, was one of the first five college football programs in existence. Its first game was in 1872, when the Ducks were defeated by Columbia of the Ivy League 6-0. The following year, Stevens, Princeton, Rutgers, Columbia and Yale gathered together to determine the rules of college football.
Many of Stevens' opponents in the early days consisted of the Ivy League programs, Rutgers, NYU and the City College of New York, or CCNY. Other academic adversaries include Lehigh, Lafayette and MIT.
I think the program's biggest moment came in 1883, when the bigger, stronger Michigan Wolverines came to Hoboken. In what was termed a "scientific victory" by the New York Times, Stevens beat Michigan 5-1.
Stevens, currently a NCAA D-III school, dropped football in 1924. This is now one of those schools I'd consider doing a Dynasty Mode run in my NCAA Football games, after having read more about Stevens and football.
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Post by Timberwolf on Nov 8, 2019 17:08:12 GMT
It's funny how the NFL has the top free agents signed on day one of free agency with many second tier free agents gone by day 2 or 3.
Whereas in Major League Baseball, free agency is slow going. Top free agents may still be available maybe a month before training camp begins or even days before training camp begins. We saw that with Bryce Harper and Manny Machado last year.
Even though baseball free agency is open right now, there has been little movement other than minor trades here and there. I'm anxious to see who goes where, but I guess I gotta be patient. I know my Brewers need a catcher, a 3B man, and starting pitching. And perhaps a closer. I don't think Josh Hader is the answer at closer. He might be more suited as the 7th & 8th inning set up man like he was before Knebel's Tommy John surgery.
The next few months should be interesting.
Baseball fans, who are you hoping that your team picks up in free agency?
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Post by El Marsh on Nov 8, 2019 17:47:39 GMT
MLB's entire contract system is infuriating. I like that (most) owners have buckled down and stopped giving slightly above average players insane contracts (something that I feel defines the NBA contract system) but there will always be that one that caves into something silly for a guy who won't be worth it 3 years down the line of an 8 year deal. Mind you, I don't fault the players for asking but short of maybe 5 guys in the entire league, nobody is actually worth $35m/year. Since baseball has no salary cap, the owners can really pay whatever the hell they want for players but it should at least make sense imo.
/rant
As for who I'd want on the Royals, I don't even play that game because even with the incoming change of ownership, Kansas City just isn't a place where elite free agents come. Every now and again we'll land a guy like Ian Kennedy or Kendrys Morales who (at the time of acquisition) would start for most teams in the league but usually, Royals free agents are guys coming off of serious injury or guys who just didn't fit in on their last couple of teams. I've taken to referring to these players as (Royals GM) "Dayton Moore's Scrap Heap" players; low risk, high reward guys that most teams pass on because of MAJOR concerns about health and production. Given that the Royals are usually in the lower 3rd of team salary rankings, it's really this team's best chance to get an impact player in free agency. There's absolutely no way that elite talents can be lured here.
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Post by chopperdave on Nov 9, 2019 1:41:07 GMT
There have been some rumors that Cleveland might trade Francisco Lindor, maybe to the Dodgers. Unless we get a huge ass return, I would like to avoid that. Along with Corey Kluber, he's the face of the franchise, and his power numbers seem to keep going up a little each season.
I know the idea going around is that our window to win is closed or just about to close, but looking at our free agents now and who we still have, I think we can still contend for the division in 2020, barring a bunch of injuries (see: 2019).
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Post by faulknasty on Nov 9, 2019 1:49:56 GMT
There have been some rumors that Cleveland might trade Francisco Lindor, maybe to the Dodgers. Unless we get a huge ass return, I would like to avoid that. Along with Corey Kluber, he's the face of the franchise, and his power numbers seem to keep going up a little each season. I know the idea going around is that our window to win is closed or just about to close, but looking at our free agents now and who we still have, I think we can still contend for the division in 2020, barring a bunch of injuries (see: 2019). The Cleveland way is to trade the stars in the backside of your prime for prospects usually at least one of which becomes a star that you repeat the process with again. Sometimes they they have a good and almost win a world series as an unintended consequence. (Am a fan of this team, Just seen this cycle so many times. I will say in recent years they have varied a little.)
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