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Post by unimportantguy on Dec 28, 2019 3:17:06 GMT
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Post by unimportantguy on Jan 1, 2020 20:40:36 GMT
Hey guys so just a quick update: the new issue of Inside Wrasslin' came out and they have interviews with Lina and El Rey Dorado. I'm busy at work this week but when I get done time I'll get those transcribed for the thread.
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Post by unimportantguy on Jan 4, 2020 4:59:11 GMT
"I Aint Pretending Sh*t": An Interview with El Rey DoradoConducted by the Inside Wrasslin' Staff on 12/28/2019Inside Wrasslin’: Thank you for coming in and having this sit-down interview with us. You’re facing Samael at Cresce-
El Rey Dorado: First of all, fuck you, gringo. There. That’s called “setting the tone.” Now, what do you want to know?
IW: 2019 marked three years of Los Diablos in SWA. Do you have any reflections on your faction’s 2019?
ERD: What’s that supposed to mean, man? Every year is great for Los Diablos. We wrestle big matches, we make mucho dinero, and we punk out little bitches in the ring.
IW: Well about that, it would seem as if Los Diablos has mostly been away from the title scene in 2019. Is that something you hope to correct in 2020?
ERD: laughs This is that hard-hitting journalism I hear about, yeah? You trying to piss me off, ese? Okay, okay, maybe El Rey Dorado didn’t hold gold in SWA in 2019. But Aguijon Tachibana, Leticia Fujioka, and Cerise were all in big title matches this year, man, for the Aftermath and Tag-Team Championships.
IW: Matches, I would note, they lost.
ERD: Now I know you’re trying to piss me off. What did I just say, ese? Wrestle big matches, make a bunch of money. Yeah, the biggest money goes to un campeón, but those title matches? They pay big. And in 2019, marks were paying good money to see Los Diablos, unlike our “champ.” You look at the numbers, man. Ticket sales are higher when Los Diablos are on the card. So it’s not that we’re looking to make a bigger mark in 2020, it’s that if SWA is smart, they will feature Los Diablos more in 2020, and everyone makes more money.
IW: That seems as good a segue as any. You have a lot of history personally with Samael Tangaroa. How did you two meet?
ERD: That would’ve been back in… 2012? Los Diablos had already started in 2010 with me and Fabio, and then Aguijon joining up in 2011. Those were the days, man. Tearing it up all over Baja and Sonora. Anyway, Sam. So in 2012 we’re working in some shitty little town in Sonora and the promoter comes to me and says he has this guy he wants us to work with. And there’s this kid; big kid, tall, in this dumbass orange singlet. I mean he’s the same age as me but fuck him he’s a kid. And right away me and Fabio are like “Are you fucking kidding us” but the promoter is being a dick about it like “Look I paid a lot of money for this kid; his cousin is a big name in the US and if you don’t work with him I just won’t pay you.”
IW: Were you at all familiar with his cousin, Chris? (Ed. Note: For our younger readers, Chris “Tank” Tangaroa was a minor MMA star in the mid-90’s and worked a brief stint as a “Ringside Enforcer” for NWPW.)
ERD: Fuck no, man. I was born in 1990. That pendejo was washed up before I was 10.
IW: And how long did you work with Samael in Mexico?
ERD: Well first of all he was just Sam then. All this “Samael” stuff is just a bunch of bullshit. But we worked together from 2012 to about 2015. At first we just thought “We’ll just ditch this loser once we leave town,” but the fact was the crowds were reacting to him and me when we would come out together, these two huge dudes, and it made us a lot of money.
IW: And why did you stop working with him?
ERD: Sam likes to tell people how, when he was working in Mexico, he had a gun pulled on him one time. He doesn’t tell the rest of the story, though. We were working a show in Tijuana, and it was a rowdy fuckin’ crowd and a lot of people were drunk. We were doing our entrance when some dickhead pulls out an old-ass service revolver and points it at Sam. And what does that little puta do? He just stands there, frozen, jaw hanging, eyes wide as dinner plates, staring at this drunken dumbass pointing a gun at him, about to pull the trigger. Bitch is lucky me and Fabio were there to tackle that dude because there wasn’t a security guard anywhere in a square mile. That was when I had enough. After the show, I told him, “You would never do for us what we just did for you. If I was depending on you to back me up if things got wild man, you would just stand there with your thumb up your ass. You’re a little punk bitch. Get the fuck out of here, and if I see your face around here ever again, I’m gonna break it.”
IW: Wow.
ERD: What I want you to understand: people try to say “Oh it’s wrestling; wrestlers pretend to have beef all the time.” I ain’t pretending shit, cabron. I fucking hate Sam Tangaroa. You can make that your headline.
IW: Wait, why did you come to SWA when Samael called you, then?
ERD: You been listenin’, man? I already told you twice: Mucho. Dinero. Besides, he thought he could play with us like puppets, man. It was worth it just to see the look on his punk-ass face when we jumped him.
IW: And what did you think when you first saw what Samael had become in SWA?
ERD: I thought the way I do now: He’s still a little punk bitch. Sam can hide his fear under as many tattoos and name changes and spoooky speeches as he wants. You look at his face when he’s doing what he does in the ring. When he hurts somebody, you look in his eyes. Those aren’t the eyes of a killer, man. That’s a scared little boy. Then there’s this “Brotherhood” of his. That’s not a Brotherhood. That’s a cult of personality, with Sam at the center. Now you see, Los Diablos, yeah. Hermanos. In Los Diablos, it’s mi casa, tu casa, and when we get together I’m bringing the tequila. Would Sam do that for anybody in his “Brotherhood?” Would Sam do that for anybody, period? No.
IW: Any final thoughts on your match with Samael at Crescendo?
ERD: Just like at the beginning of this interview, when I get into the ring, I set the tone. And the tone at Crescendo? It’s gonna be violent, ese. I’m taking the Openweight Title, yeah, but more importantly, I’m sending Sam Tangaroa back into the hole he crawled out of. Los Diablos estamos numero uno, cabron. And don’t you forget it.
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Post by OrochiGeese on Jan 4, 2020 22:42:58 GMT
Wow that was total fire 🔥 Such character in this interview. It permeated and drove the entire dialogue. I love it.
This was such a key part of it. It's like both the Brotherhood and Los Diablos are clearly heels in regard to the rest of the roster. But this interview brought out shades of grey.
On one hand, Rey paints Sam as some scared, big kid and that gun angle kind of made me feel some sympathy for him. Sounds like Samael wasn't ready for some of what he encountered and it twisted him. On the other hand, if Rey is actually telling the truth here (unreliable narrator!), there's some nobility to the brotherhood of Los Diablos and the fact they actually helped Sam out in that situation.
This added so many extra layers to Rey's character and the feud between the groups!!
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Post by unimportantguy on Jan 4, 2020 23:05:09 GMT
Geese: If you look back over the last few years of SWA, we've heard this gun story from a few different angles now. Samael, Fabio, and El Rey Dorado all remember the incident differently, and they tell the story differently. To Samael, it was a moment that defined what the world of wrestling is to him, a violent and senseless hell. To Fabio, it confirmed to him that Samael was too much of a coward to be a member of Los Diablos. To El Rey, it was an implicit betrayal of the brotherhood of wrestling. Each of them had their own angle they were trying to push when telling the story, and none of them necessarily is telling the whole truth.
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Post by OrochiGeese on Jan 4, 2020 23:11:18 GMT
I think I may have missed the mention of it before. That's especially intriguing what you did with it. One rather traumatic situation perceived and remembered differently over the years as to how it happened and the way it further orged this hatred. I wonder if we'll ever hear about it from the gun-toter's view!
(Provided he was sober enough to even remember it!)
I really like how Rey used it in a way to turn further against Samael. I mean, the victim here was clearly Samael yet Rey immediately turned it around on him with the pure speculation of "you never would have saved us the way we saved you. So even though you almost got shot, we were the real victims due to your supposed hypocrisy." That's some quality heel mind-twisting narrative right there 😁👍
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Post by unimportantguy on Jan 4, 2020 23:22:03 GMT
I wouldn't blame you for not remembering the previous mentions- Samael first mentioned the story back in 2016! Due to the format I use in SWA, those old promos are sadly lost to the shadows of history. I think, in a way, that reinforces the narrative, though- different people remember things differently, and there's no definitive document to go back to and reference. In-universe, the show never went to tape. Out of universe, the previous mentions are lost to various forum crashes and closures.
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Post by OrochiGeese on Jan 5, 2020 7:07:35 GMT
Yeah, wow, that is really fitting for the nature of the story. The only thing people have to go by are their own recollections of it and I bet some of them can't even fully trust their own memories given the way our brains tend to re-enforce biases to fill in memory gaps. It's actually perfect there isn't one specific written record of it all and this has basically become like the patchwork oral history of a family or a game of telephone 😁
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Post by unimportantguy on Jan 9, 2020 0:40:59 GMT
Hey folks, I will be posting later this evening after SWA Joshi with my upload of the main event (The finals of the A Block for Queen of SWA), but before then: Back in 2015, SWA had a truly magical crossover show. FPCPP vs. SWA: Galaxy of Heroes. Which was the first time I ever captured and uploaded a full show for anything.
I originally uploaded all the matches to my YouTube account, unlisted, with forum links. But those links are very much long-since gone, and I hadn't thought about the show in years. Today, though, I remembered. As such, every match of FPCPP vs. SWA: Galaxy of Heroes is now public on my YouTube channel. So yeah. All of FPCPP vs. SWA: Galaxy of Heroes is now publicly available, marking the first time that the show has been available in any format in over 4 years. Enjoy. www.youtube.com/channel/UC3NqJpL-QbERy-qJ742Se1A
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Post by unimportantguy on Jan 9, 2020 5:34:59 GMT
From this week's SWA Joshi, the main event! With both Tigress Amita and Kaori Nakajima at 8 points, this match decides who can advance to 10 and take the block. youtu.be/xDlqY6E_kxY
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Post by wrasslinisreal on Jan 9, 2020 9:27:39 GMT
How have I only just discovered this?! Great stuff!
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Post by unimportantguy on Jan 9, 2020 21:00:46 GMT
Welcome to the thread! Glad you're enjoying it so far.
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Post by unimportantguy on Jan 9, 2020 21:06:01 GMT
Okay, I think this post got eaten at some point. I swear I had something here explaining how and why I use spoiler tags in this thread, but lemme just put it down here for reference. There are a couple of reasons I use spoiler tags in this thread: * If something is long or wordy, and I want to keep the thread pages easy to scroll through, I will often place it in spoiler tags. * If I feel like something is actually a spoiler for an SWA show or match, I will also place it in spoiler tags. * And finally, when I want to say something about Fire Pro, edits, or running SWA, it will be in a spoiler tag. If you see me posting text in the main body of the thread outside of spoiler tags, you can safely assume I'm speaking "in-character" as a dedicated SWA fan and mark for unimportantguy the wrestler. In spoiler tags, I will more freely discuss my own experiences with the game, my booking decisions, etc. I do not require that other posters play along with this, but it's appreciated.
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Post by unimportantguy on Jan 16, 2020 5:17:21 GMT
From this week's SWA Joshi, the final match of the B Block of the Queen of SWA! Up to this point, Valkyrie Jameson has only fallen once in the B Block, carrying herself to 10 points. Brianna Dalton, meanwhile, has won 4 of her 6 block matches, sitting at 8 points. If Valkyrie wins, she will be comfortably far and away ahead of everyone else, taking the block at 12 points. Brianna, at 8 points, can win here tonight if she can tie the block on points. youtu.be/LjnoMtnv1IoFINAL RESULTS: A Block winner: Tigress Amita (10 pts.) B Block Winner: Brianna Dalton (10 pts.) Tigress Amita and Brianna Dalton will face each other at Crescendo in the Queen of SWA Finals; the winner will go on to face the SWA Joshi Champion at Aftermath.
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Post by unimportantguy on Jan 17, 2020 19:36:23 GMT
WARNING: The following post does not respect kayfabe at all. Seriously, this is a pretty close look at how the sausage gets made. Recently, the question of how I assign edit points has come up a few times and I thought I'd do a brief write-up about it. I don't have much in the way of hard and fast rules. What follows are some guidelines I tend to follow, although they are full of exceptions and get broken when I have a strong idea or justification.
1. Edits should have an absolute maximum of 180 edit points. (In practice, my highest point totals in SWA's current active roster are Mieko Suzuyama and Fabio Silva, both at 170, and both because they break the next rule) 2. With very few exceptions, edits should have Finisher CRITICAL and the Finisher Special Skill. Under the appropriate circumstances, Superstar is also acceptable. (Fabio Silva has Power CRITICAL because he's a sloppy wrestler who doesn't know his own strength. Lina has Superstar because she's the most popular Joshi in SWA history. Mieko Suzuyama has Reborn because she is SWA Joshi's Okada.) 3. Edits should have Medium move speed. (In my experience, if two edits have different move speeds things tend to get weird with Irish Whips. Keeping everyone at the same move speed helps keep edits from running into each other as much. I adjust the turnbuckle climb speed freely as I see fit.) 4. Edits may not have a 1 or a 10 in any stat, and 9s should be rare and have a very good reason. 5. Edits may have a maximum of one stat above 7. (Often, this is used when I've tailored a move set so that the edit only uses that stat on a very small number of moves that I want to be extremely impactful, such as finishers. (ex. Tigress Amita used to have an 8 in Rough because her only Rough move was the Force Straight Punch. When I added a couple more Rough moves to her moveset, her Rough stat went down to 7.) 5. A maximum of 5 points may be divided between Punch Offense and Kick Offense. 6. A maximum of 10 points may be divided between Punch Defense and Kick Defense. (SWA's house style tends to feature a lot of striking; these two rules are in place to make sure those big brawls don't push the match pacing along too quickly. 7. To ensure that submission holds have any impact at all, Joint and Stretch Defense are capped at 3 (4 for main eventers) 8. Lariat Defense may not be the highest Defense score an edit has. (In most cases, the highest will be Impact, Aerial, or Technical)
Again, these are guidelines, not hard and fast rules. In addition to the exceptions I've listed above, there are a number of others. I think Connor Cipris breaks almost every rule here, as an example, in pursuit of further defining his character. These guidelines mostly just help me quickly bang out an edit's parameters when I want to get them into action and test as quickly as possible.
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