Piracy

I'm genuinely curious about that if it's being crabby and cantankerous a lot of us would be banned.

I liked Carl quite a lot, I really did. He was helpful with the site, generally a cool guy to talk to, plus the mods, y'know, the mods! Mods are cool.

...However, from the very start of the DLC delay Carl began a disgusting ego trip that I initially thought was just reactionary, I wanted to think it was, cause I respect this guy, but nah, one month later and still ceaselessly bitching. 

Carl is the primary culprit of the chaotic last month here in the community, thanks to the mods split. He spoke without care, without forethought, and provoked many people by saying mods were fucked before he even knew it. To his credit, he didn't intend on doing that, as evident by the semi-frequent moments in-between when he remembered what age he is. Anyone as constantly negative as he was, however, usually gets the axe fairly early on. If you have nothing to contribute besides negativity, you don't belong here. 

In addition, many of his statements are intentionally (because he doesn't give a shit) attacks against Spike Chunsoft. While criticizing a developer is fair game anywhere, being the guy who's perfectly capable of and is currently taking sales away from said developer, and attacking them, is the fast track to becoming the biggest liability you can be.

Such statements as...
"At NO POINT did I say I was mad at Spike for not providing an internal build. In fact I stated the EXACT FUCKING OPPOSITE. I do hope the game dies a quick death. I'm ready for Spike and their poor decision making to come to and end."

The "be happy we got a game" bullshit is more damaging and less helpful than people people asking Spike to be responsible to their customer base or stating that they're falling short of expectations.

I wasn't going to release something like that because circumventing the workshop meant that pirates would potentially be able to share edits. At this point, I don't care if they can...

I'm sure it'll be moddable. I just don't care if the stuff I actually want isn't present anymore because they decided to stupidly create a gigantic mess for themselves by releasing a shitty version of the game to a much larger and more fickle market. I contacted Spike about wanting to get updates done before the release, they said they couldn't do it...so now here we are. What's going to end up happening is it's going to split some of the community off, I'm going to have to circumvent their last remaining copy protection (that being requiring the workshop to share edits) and we'll all have to move on from there...which might burn the bridge with Spike regarding modding, but at this point I'm pretty confident they don't have the man power to actually halt modding, so if that's what needs to happen, that's what needs to happen.

It is exceptionally of note that the last two statements were made when he was a fuckin' admin, by extension a representative of the Fire Pro Community itself. At this time, I was exceptionally stressed out but figured it would pass.

Open declarations of piracy, from a guy very capable of enabling it and spreading it within his section of the community:
I get that $70 bucks would make it "equivalent" to the PS4 pricing plan, but if they price it any higher than $50 bucks I'll be getting the DLC some other way.

In fact, I suspect the always-on DRM of the latest DLC is entirely the fault of Carl and the very real possibility of his flippant, egotistical attitude towards the devs leading to him immediately attempting to enable piracy of new content. 

It is because of his position that the bullshit he spews is of any more importance than the random Joe. His near ceaseless pissing and moaning is more than enough to boot a guy, usually. Civil discussion is encouraged, attacks aren't, and not getting the fuck over yourself for an entire month certainly isn't. He was already halfway out the door. Me pushing him out makes no difference and has been justified many many times.

So, yes, the piracy thing was an excuse. Because no one here wanted to ban him. However, he violated the most important rule, and is continuing to do so as we speak, I bet he's even got the DLC shit pirated for 1.02 already. Thus, I have no sympathy for him, neither should you, he was leaving anyway, go visit him elsewhere. He's not welcome here anymore in any case, not like he cares.

How much you're allowed to get away with is not measured by how much you contribute much like how good you are at arguing isn't determined by how quickly you resort to ignoring the logic and instead decide to attack the man behind it.

I don't need to talk to him. His actions say it all. I was giving him all the time in the world to not be a shitter, but day after day after day he continued. He's so high up on his horse that literally nothing I could say would change his behavior, because he's very set on not giving a shit. He's proud of his capacity to not give a shit, even. And he's not a part of any team I'm in anymore, in any case. I talked to him once to apologize for my error, though. Then he went off to bitch behind closed doors.

I have explicitly detailed why he was banned, and why what he said mattered. Maybe I didn't convey the sheer volume of bitching well enough. He's a fan like anyone else, sure. He's a fan who's actively destructive to the community and perhaps even the game and its sales themselves, whether it be through enabling piracy or announcing his mod suite will not be compatible with version 2.0, thus prompting people to avoid buying DLC they otherwise would have. Enabling people to, by circumventing the Workshop. 

Banning him is getting rid of a nuisance. He's what you call a useful bastard. They're useful enough you want to keep them around, but sometimes they're just too goddamn much of a bastard. 

I admit this thread has turned into me attacking him a bit. Because I have a lot of built up aggression, yeah. Of course, I got that out by calling him a manchild to his fucking face. In that moment, I thought it was remarkably immature of me, but hey, it's more than he has the balls to do. That's not the point though, the reason this thread was made was because people are absolutely going to notice him being gone, and I didn't want it to seem like we were hiding something.

This is just the, "what can I do to fuel the Carl hate boner" thread lmao

Geez this has been one hell of a roller coaster

Well it makes sense that people are going to ask questions about what happened. But with that said, you make a good point and the best move would be to keep that information clear and accurate.