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Piracy
Sept 28, 2018 4:12:30 GMT
Post by Spunk on Sept 28, 2018 4:12:30 GMT
(redacted)
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Piracy
Sept 28, 2018 4:13:55 GMT
Post by Severla on Sept 28, 2018 4:13:55 GMT
Well I certainly wasnt that mad lol.
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Piracy
Sept 28, 2018 4:16:06 GMT
Post by Brick9mm on Sept 28, 2018 4:16:06 GMT
He's not putting words into their mouths. Carl expressed a desire for a swift death to the game while he was here so that he could do as he pleased with it.
However... you are correct that we don't need to be attacking anyone who's not here to defend themselves. Then again, it's not like the man himself has any reservations about doing that.
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Piracy
Sept 28, 2018 4:21:35 GMT
Post by Spunk on Sept 28, 2018 4:21:35 GMT
I'm not going to defend anyone here, but perhaps mods should look into making sure that we avoid character assassination of folks who can't defend themselves here. Please keep in mind that Spike was encouraging of the modding, was in contact with Carl often and even had a possible offer for him to come on board at one point. The narrative of "moders vs. Spike" is going to become overblown after this, I fear, if it hasn't already been. It probably wouldn't have come to this if there weren't a few people pushing that narrative. He's not putting words into their mouths. Carl expressed a desire for a swift death to the game while he was here so that he could do as he pleased with it. However... you are correct that we don't need to be attacking anyone who's not here to defend themselves. Then again, it's not like the man himself has any reservations about doing that. I personally have a different view on what his expressed desires were and how they were interpreted, but I've known Carl for a long time. Still, I've been around this community since the late 90's and have seen how people can get crucified for things and how these issues can fester. It would probably be best to leave it at this for now? He broke a forum rule and was removed. Period. Just my two cents.
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Sooj
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Post by Sooj on Sept 28, 2018 4:31:05 GMT
I’ll agree with you on one point - this drama’s totally unnecessary. Anything else is just speculation - I don’t know Spike well enough to comment on their development practices and I don’t know Carl well enough to comment on his personal life. EDIT: nor do I really WANT to.
What I think we can all agree on is that a solid community is the lifeblood of Fire Pro - as much as a Fire Pro game is the lifeblood of this community
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Piracy
Sept 28, 2018 4:40:03 GMT
Post by sofia on Sept 28, 2018 4:40:03 GMT
hey so, I'm sorry to do this, but I feel like this is going down a path I'd rather not see it go down. If you're wondering why there have been posts pruned, that's why!
Let's try and keep the peace. Thanks!
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Piracy
Sept 28, 2018 4:43:50 GMT
Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 4:43:50 GMT
I don't appreciate all of my posts getting deleted but I'll repost this section that's without the anger or the person's name.
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Post by Zealot on Sept 28, 2018 4:44:04 GMT
With a thread titled Piracy, I would need a razor for this fine line.
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Post by romanticmisery on Sept 28, 2018 5:48:57 GMT
What a mess this has turned into... Jesus Christ..
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Piracy
Sept 28, 2018 5:56:18 GMT
Post by eightbitzombie on Sept 28, 2018 5:56:18 GMT
I mean, Carl's mods are quite a bit better then the handful of horribly bizarre looking NJPW edits you can get instead.
If I saw that Kitamura online I would wonder who the hell made it and what they were smoking.
Sucks that Carl is booted after being a member of the community for over a decade, I don't care if he wants to be here or not, that's shitty.
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Piracy
Sept 28, 2018 6:20:09 GMT
Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 6:20:09 GMT
I mean, Carl's mods are quite a bit better then the handful of horribly bizarre looking NJPW edits you can get instead. Sucks that Carl is booted after being a member of the community for over a decade, I don't care if he wants to be here or not, that's shitty. It sucks that Carl decided that he couldn't wait until Spike wrapped production on the game in a few months. It sucks that Carl decided that World was hot trash without his mods. It sucks that Carl burned himself out and decided to torch his relationship with Spike instead of just taking a break for awhile. It sucks that people in his modding discord are talking about pirating the game so they can stay on 1.20 and refunding the DLC. It sucks that there's another Fire Pro site and more unneccessary drama. Alot of things suck. What the staff chose to do in response to his behavior wasn't one of them. tl;dr - CARL SCREWED CARL 😂
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Piracy
Sept 28, 2018 6:42:24 GMT
Post by eightbitzombie on Sept 28, 2018 6:42:24 GMT
I mean, Carl's mods are quite a bit better then the handful of horribly bizarre looking NJPW edits you can get instead. Sucks that Carl is booted after being a member of the community for over a decade, I don't care if he wants to be here or not, that's shitty .tl;dr - CARL SCREWED CARL 😂 He can still play and make mods sooo...not really. Glad to know some dude who walked in off the street is having a blast tho
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Piracy
Sept 28, 2018 8:43:44 GMT
Post by Slick_36 on Sept 28, 2018 8:43:44 GMT
This is all a shame to see. I bought multiple versions of the game for mods, I convinced people to buy the game with the mods, I know many more bought the game on their own because of the mods. It's awful to see anyone split the community, I think Carl might be one of the ones who has brought us together the most.
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Piracy
Sept 28, 2018 9:22:03 GMT
via mobile
Post by kingradical on Sept 28, 2018 9:22:03 GMT
An absolutely petty move. Don't pretend this wasn't a power move instead of an actual stand against piracy.
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Piracy
Sept 28, 2018 9:23:46 GMT
via mobile
Post by kingradical on Sept 28, 2018 9:23:46 GMT
He's not putting words into their mouths. Carl expressed a desire for a swift death to the game while he was here so that he could do as he pleased with it. However... you are correct that we don't need to be attacking anyone who's not here to defend themselves. Then again, it's not like the man himself has any reservations about doing that. You don't? When did you guys decide that because your discord chat suggests you love talking shit about people who aren't there to defend themselves
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