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Post by ripper on Oct 14, 2018 2:28:42 GMT
I had to have A LOT of help for the rollback and re-installs. Worth it though. 2.0 and it's chains just don't do much for me.
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Post by ripper on Oct 15, 2018 12:55:35 GMT
Anyone know shit about Muay Thai, Olympic/Greco-Romam/submission wrestling, sumo, Judo, etc. like we do for karate and boxing (thanks to maikeru & senator, again)? I'd love have technical names for those kicks (and Fierce Low Kick) too.
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Post by ripper on Oct 15, 2018 13:28:27 GMT
It'd also be nice to know who all the taunts were originally meant for.
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Post by Zealot on Oct 15, 2018 14:25:41 GMT
90% of those taunts are from Fire Pro Returns and possibly farther back so you could probably find better information there. Most of the newer taunts are pretty obvious.
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Post by craziej2k on Oct 15, 2018 16:53:51 GMT
It'd also be nice to know who all the taunts were originally meant for. Challenge accepted!
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Post by ripper on Oct 15, 2018 20:09:24 GMT
It'd also be nice to know who all the taunts were originally meant for. Challenge accepted! So, as usual, maikeru has already beat us to it. I found his old FPR translations and it has a ton of the taunts named. Adding them now. Still a lot of holes to fill, though.
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Post by craziej2k on Oct 15, 2018 21:39:39 GMT
I added a few from FPR, FPZ, FPG and SFPWXP as well as the new ones from the NJPW DLC - Weirdly enough there's a taunt called Delfin Pose that Super Delfin hasn't ever done in game
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Post by ripper on Oct 15, 2018 23:10:56 GMT
Awesome! I'm looking through Sumo pages trying to find the name of the Sumo Squat Leg Lift pose, but I just keep seeing moobs and cottage cheese ass.
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Post by ripper on Oct 16, 2018 12:47:13 GMT
So, the running corner Kangaroo Kick. Is that supposed to be Low Ki's Tidal Wave?
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Post by dnmt on Oct 16, 2018 16:29:17 GMT
Quick note. Went through a wormhole to figure out hurricanrana vs. frankensteiner vs. headscissors takedown.
The Frankenstein Whip moves in standing grapples and running grapples should be called "Headscissors Takedown". The move called Headscissors Whip or whatever should be Tilt-a-Whirl Headscissors Takedown. The Original Frankensteiner should just be Frankensteiner. The Huracanrana's are fine, two ways to spell it but both should be Hurricanrana (anything that ends in double leg cradle pin).
The one that throws me off is the Frankensteiner that ends in a pin (without the double leg cradle) where the wrestler points 1 finger up in the pinning move. What is that supposed to be?
And the top rope versions. Avalanche Frankensteiner? Avalanche Headscissors Takedown?
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Post by dnmt on Oct 16, 2018 16:40:51 GMT
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Post by sofia on Oct 16, 2018 18:31:51 GMT
Quick note. Went through a wormhole to figure out hurricanrana vs. frankensteiner vs. headscissors takedown. The Frankenstein Whip moves in standing grapples and running grapples should be called "Headscissors Takedown". The move called Headscissors Whip or whatever should be Tilt-a-Whirl Headscissors Takedown. Eh, when I think of a headscissors takedown, I think of something more like a corbata, or a move where the opponent simply wraps his legs around the opponent's head and takes them over... not something as dramatic as this sort of Rey Mysterio-esque move. However, yeah, the latter is a shortened name for the sake of fitting the character limit. In Japanese it's "Satellite Headscissors Whip," "Tilt-a-whirl Headscissors" is a perfectly fine name for it It's to separate it from the other one you mentioned later. More specifically, it's supposed to be the version Scott Steiner popularized, where he'd simply spike the opponent's head into the mat and use it as an impact move, rather than a rollup pin. You can also use it to do something like Kazuyuki Fujita's Frankensteiner into Cross Arm Breaker. I mean, if you're being traditionalist, the proper name is Huracanrana. It was named after luchador Huracán Ramírez. The full name is Huracán Rana Invertida. Exactly what it says it is. More accurately, it's supposed to represent a younger Keiji Mutoh's version of the move. He usually didn't point up into the air, but I'm assuming it's meant to evoke how he performed it in one particular match (that I haven't seen). Top Rope or Avalanche Frankensteiner. Or Hurricanrana, if you're a WWE person where references to the Steiners are generally avoided.
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Post by Senator Phillips on Oct 16, 2018 18:38:31 GMT
Quick note. Went through a wormhole to figure out hurricanrana vs. frankensteiner vs. headscissors takedown. The Frankenstein Whip moves in standing grapples and running grapples should be called "Headscissors Takedown". The move called Headscissors Whip or whatever should be Tilt-a-Whirl Headscissors Takedown. Eh, when I think of a headscissors takedown, I think of something more like a corbata, or a move where the opponent simply wraps his legs around the opponent's head and takes them over... not something as dramatic as this sort of Rey Mysterio-esque move. However, yeah, the latter is a shortened name for the sake of fitting the character limit. In Japanese it's "Satellite Headscissors Whip," "Tilt-a-whirl Headscissors" is a perfectly fine name for it It's to separate it from the other one you mentioned later. More specifically, it's supposed to be the version Scott Steiner popularized, where he'd simply spike the opponent's head into the mat and use it as an impact move, rather than a rollup pin. You can also use it to do something like Kazuyuki Fujita's Frankensteiner into Cross Arm Breaker. I mean, if you're being traditionalist, the proper name is Huracanrana. It was named after luchador Huracán Ramírez. The full name is Huracán Rana Invertida. Exactly what it says it is. More accurately, it's supposed to represent a younger Keiji Mutoh's version of the move. He usually didn't point up into the air, but I'm assuming it's meant to evoke how he performed it in one particular match (that I haven't seen). Top Rope or Avalanche Frankensteiner. Or Hurricanrana, if you're a WWE person where references to the Steiners are generally avoided. I don't disagree with any of this.
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Post by dnmt on Oct 16, 2018 19:20:45 GMT
Exactly what it says it is. More accurately, it's supposed to represent a younger Keiji Mutoh's version of the move. He usually didn't point up into the air, but I'm assuming it's meant to evoke how he performed it in one particular match (that I haven't seen). My problem with that is it goes against the distinction I have between Frankensteiner (lands on head) and Hurricanrana (lands on back). The pinning one (it's just called "Frankensteiner" by default, right?) clearly has the guy land on his back. I think I will name it Frankensteiner Pin and change the Original Frankensteiner to just Frankensteiner. And the guiding principle for me using headscissors is what it says on Wikipedia. "The move is performed with the wrestler's legs scissored around the opponent's head, dragging the opponent into a forced forward somersault as the wrestler falls to the mat. It is often erroneously called the Hurricanrana in American wrestling, but due to the lack of a double leg cradle pinning combination, it is a standard headscissors takedown." Then the tilt-a-whirl version is: "This move is actually a counter. Usually, the opponent grabs the attacking wrestler (as if he would perform a sidewalk slam), the attacking counters and swings his body upwards, then scissors his legs around the opponent's head, spin around the opponent's body and swings his legs downwards, resulting in the headscissors takedown."
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Post by ripper on Oct 18, 2018 12:04:51 GMT
I've been a little lazy with this. It's going to be a permanent WIP. craziej is a superstar though. And, thanks to all you cats for the help.
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