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Post by bolleat on Jul 21, 2018 2:30:25 GMT
I been seeing people say their leaving the community for good and want to stop playing the game because of this. Seriously even if Sword is guilty, the fuck does that have to do with Fire Pro as a whole or the larger community? Just by the criminal math statistics (you know 1 out of every 10 people shoplift ect) then by all logic we likely got some thieves, rapists, arsonist and maybe a murderer in our alumni. Just because their in the alumni doesn't mean it reflects on the entire community or Game. Seriously where does virtue signaling ever get anyone? This is completely absurd. If you feel this way stop listening to music and watching sports, movies, and TV because boatloads of people in those things are involved in just as bad if not worse things. This whole situation is just so sad. A symptom of the sickness in society. Hopefully we can all grow a vibrant community that pushes more positive interactions. Go Critical Club! |
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Post by protheanbeacon on Jul 21, 2018 5:53:36 GMT
Guilty until proven innocent is something I really believe in. Thing is, because child porn is such a social stigma, they don't bust for it unless they have a pretty damn good proof and they know they can get the guy convicted. I respectfully disagree with the "guilty until innocent" mentality.
SJW's and radfems have poisoned our culture to the point most of us automatically believe our fellow males are guilty on just about any issue the so called law ever charges them with.
So what really angers me is the presumption that males are always bad and should have the worst assumed about us while women should automatically be given a pass or if suspected of wrongdoing "oh it was just a mistake most likely".
Thats nonsense. They wanted equality so if we're going to live in a toxic SJW mentality world then EVERYONE of BOTH genders should automatically be considered as bad/guilty by society when simply charged with something or better than that simply "innocent until proven guilty" as it was the mindset in the not so distant past that worked really well for us until the SJW generation got old enough to begin effecting the culture and the legal system in the negative manner that they have.
I just hope TigerSword can get a fair trial but when SJW's and radfems want blood its highly unlikely he or any man will receive one.
Most likely some lying whore told him she was 18 or older when she's likely 17 with one month to go to "officially" turn 18 and now TigerSword will be screwed/branded for life as a sex offender and thats if he even manages to get released from prison without being murdered first.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2018 6:12:51 GMT
This is not a political debate. I don't think that SJWs or "radfems" have anything to do with people crucifying Sword. It's a shitty thing to be accused of, with a lot of social taboo behind it, and even being hit with the accusation carries a stigma.
Also, guilty until proven innocent isn't an SJW or "radfem" thing at all, it's a very common legal outlook, even if most places have adopted presumed innocence as their official standpoint, especially in non-US countries.
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Post by htiman on Jul 21, 2018 17:21:47 GMT
Well, as someone who became a lurker a long while ago, this was certainly an...interesting situation to come back to. Seeing the Arena locked down, then coming here and reading what happened, is just about the last thing I expected to read about today.
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Post by desertpunk34 on Jul 21, 2018 19:06:29 GMT
Guilty until proven innocent is something I really believe in. Thing is, because child porn is such a social stigma, they don't bust for it unless they have a pretty damn good proof and they know they can get the guy convicted.
Most likely some lying whore told him she was 18 or older when she's likely 17 with one month to go to "officially" turn 18 and now TigerSword will be screwed/branded for life as a sex offender and thats if he even manages to get released from prison without being murdered first.
Age of consent in RI is 16 btw, took 3 seconds to google that. Anyway I'm classical Liberal, and very much against the SJW agenda and the over all culture war being fought right now. I also (like I said on FB) believe that Sword should have his day in court and will hold final judgement on the final evidence no matter how the court finds him. Even though I have had some fun joking about this to others on FB. Still FFS man, to automatically go to "O it was likely some lying whore" is a douche move. O and I know douche moves, ask around i'm a professional prick former troll and edgelord. But still fuck that shit, if your going to keep a open mind keep a fucking open mind and neither condemn nor pardon the situation before you actually know. |
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Post by protheanbeacon on Jul 21, 2018 19:25:34 GMT
@desertpunk: Its no more of a "douche move" than it is to automatically assume the guy is guilty simply because he's a man which honestly most of you here seem to be doing.
@carlzilla: I wasn't "debating" but simply offering "my take" as we're all "peacefully" doing in this thread.
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Post by desertpunk34 on Jul 21, 2018 19:30:27 GMT
@desertpunk: Its no more of a "douche move" than it is to automatically assume the guy is guilty simply because he's a man which honestly most of you here seem to be doing. @carlzilla : I wasn't "debating" but simply offering "my take" as we're all "peacefully" doing in this thread. Clearly you missed the point where I went into detail that He could be innocent. Also again not a SJW here but not a MGTOW pos either. I wont look down on someone for their gender but I wont give a pass on it either. You're inserting your own politics into this, but fine do as you wish. You automatically blaming a fictional women as the cause though....still a douche move. That literally the same kind of hyperbole shit SJW's pull. |
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Post by johnnybombay on Jul 21, 2018 20:33:28 GMT
I still watch the same shows Chris Benoit did ... so I'll sim the same game Sword did.
Doesn't mean I'm associated with them.
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Post by protheanbeacon on Jul 21, 2018 22:41:37 GMT
@desertpunk: Its no more of a "douche move" than it is to automatically assume the guy is guilty simply because he's a man which honestly most of you here seem to be doing. @carlzilla : I wasn't "debating" but simply offering "my take" as we're all "peacefully" doing in this thread. Clearly you missed the point where I went into detail that He could be innocent. Also again not a SJW here but not a MGTOW pos either. I wont look down on someone for their gender but I wont give a pass on it either. You're inserting your own politics into this, but fine do as you wish. You automatically blaming a fictional women as the cause though....still a douche move. That literally the same kind of hyperbole shit SJW's pull. We've all inserted our personal politics into this and it'd be dishonest to claim otherwise and hey its great if you did that somewhere (said that he could be innocent) but that does nothing to alleviate my overall point that "most" of the membership base has already threw the guy under the bus believing in true feminist/SJW fashion that because he's male he's automatically "guilty before innocent".
You must've missed the posts over on firepro arena where an SJW "pos" was already making fun of TigerSword wondering aloud if he's going to be able to "customize his prison attire" as though he were a literal Firepro World videogame character.
Anyway I didn't blame anything, I put forward a reasonable hypothetical argument that you flipped out about as you are an admitted liberal and so likely believe the dogma that no woman could ever do anything wrong.
I'll take your word for now that you haven't gone off the deep end far enough with it to go full blown SJW but that you consider MGTOW's to be "pos" doesn't exactly inspire confidence that you'll never become one of these.
MGTOW's have extremely valid reasons for why they've chosen to "go their own way" and should be respected as a group for it. They are not hurting anybody after all by doing what they're doing. Only protecting themselves and their own self interests.
Whereas SJW's are simply communists (an ideology that mass murdered over 100 million innocent people) and so truly deserve no respect whatsoever. That you didn't label them "pos" but MGTOW's "pos" to me is telling about your mentality but again I'll try and believe for now that you're simply a regular mostly tolerable bleeding heart 90's era liberal and probable Bill Clinton and Obama fan and leave it at that.
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Post by dhcguy on Jul 21, 2018 23:57:14 GMT
lol "reasonable hypothetical argument"
can this retard have the distinct honor of being banned first?
and can we have this board be free of any type of this political bullshit which will inevitably spill into other threads.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2018 0:01:41 GMT
@desertpunk: Its no more of a "douche move" than it is to automatically assume the guy is guilty simply because he's a man which honestly most of you here seem to be doing. @carlzilla : I wasn't "debating" but simply offering "my take" as we're all "peacefully" doing in this thread. You weren't debating, you were dragging social politics into a situation that really doesn't need to be framed that way, which WOULD have turned this into a political debate.
There's very little need to mention "RadFems" or "SJWs" in this thread, it just creates a polarity that otherwise wouldn't exist.
Either way, you're being asked to discontinue the insertion of social politics into places they don't need to be. I don't think I'm alone when I say that no one wants to read them on a niche wrestling video game forum. If you can't abide by that, maybe find another place to hang out...maybe a cesspool like 4Chan would be more your speed.
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Post by desertpunk34 on Jul 22, 2018 0:37:18 GMT
Clearly you missed the point where I went into detail that He could be innocent. Also again not a SJW here but not a MGTOW pos either. I wont look down on someone for their gender but I wont give a pass on it either. You're inserting your own politics into this, but fine do as you wish. You automatically blaming a fictional women as the cause though....still a douche move. That literally the same kind of hyperbole shit SJW's pull. We've all inserted our personal politics into this and it'd be dishonest to claim otherwise and hey its great if you did that somewhere (said that he could be innocent) but that does nothing to alleviate my overall point that "most" of the membership base has already threw the guy under the bus believing in true feminist/SJW fashion that because he's male he's automatically "guilty before innocent".
You must've missed the posts over on firepro arena where an SJW "pos" was already making fun of TigerSword wondering aloud if he's going to be able to "customize his prison attire" as though he were a literal Firepro World videogame character.
Anyway I didn't blame anything, I put forward a reasonable hypothetical argument that you flipped out about as you are an admitted liberal and so likely believe the dogma that no woman could ever do anything wrong.
I'll take your word for now that you haven't gone off the deep end far enough with it to go full blown SJW but that you consider MGTOW's to be "pos" doesn't exactly inspire confidence that you'll never become one of these.
MGTOW's have extremely valid reasons for why they've chosen to "go their own way" and should be respected as a group for it. They are not hurting anybody after all by doing what they're doing. Only protecting themselves and their own self interests.
Whereas SJW's are simply communists (an ideology that mass murdered over 100 million innocent people) and so truly deserve no respect whatsoever. That you didn't label them "pos" but MGTOW's "pos" to me is telling about your mentality but again I'll try and believe for now that you're simply a regular mostly tolerable bleeding heart 90's era liberal and probable Bill Clinton and Obama fan and leave it at that.
You just cherry pick buzzwords and ignore others points because they dont fit your narrative of "what they are" and begin casting them with labels and strawmen arguments. You are either a troll or a fucking idiot, also that TigerSword prison attire joke.....I don't even know how you came to that conclusion. Again either you are trolling or you have deep cognitive difficulties. I'd try to explain to a functional rational person that while I am liberal I don't automatically side with all the talking points and omg I even voted for Trump over Hillary :O that little admission will cost me various FB friends if they find out but fuck it. But seriously this is like arguing at a Tree Stump so i'm out. |
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Post by Brick9mm on Jul 22, 2018 4:29:36 GMT
From this point on let's get back on track and stick to the topic at hand, which is, what happened/is happening with the WARENA.
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Post by facesoffoley on Jul 22, 2018 11:11:06 GMT
Wow. This is some shit. I'm really sorry that FPWA had to end like that. But this community is a Phoenix and will always rise back up. It's one of the things I love about it. I cannot judge TS personally as I don't know him. If the allegation is true then we move on without him. If they are false then hopefully we can do the same with him back in the fold. Until then let's take a deep breath and rebuild.
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Post by protheanbeacon on Jul 22, 2018 18:00:12 GMT
Wow, three angry SJW's is not a pleasant site to see.
I'll refrain from attempting to engage you ladies further as logic and reason simply are not your forte.
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