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Post by jd on Mar 16, 2022 21:50:09 GMT
Hello all, it is March again when the weather starts to get warmer and the sun stays out longer (unless you are in the southern hemisphere, you weirdos), college basketball tournaments are played and I return to whatever the current Fire Pro message board is for my annual visit. It is time once more to try and predict what will happen in March Madness via the power of math and Fire Pro! (If you want to know how google one of the prior threads, basically I take the range of kenpom scores for all the tourney teams and match it up to the range of point totals for the edits I have available to me and via math they match up somehow.) Now if anyone remembers last year I said that was possibly the last time I was going to bother simming two 32 wrestler Fire Pro tourneys to fill out my bracket, so what changed? Well for one I stumbled into watching the wrestler Andrew Everett's Fire Pro efed on twitch ('tis pretty fun) and it gave me a bit of a taste to get some simming of my own in. I also like to say hi to Orochi and Senator and make sure that they are still around and kicking. Perhaps most importantly I had a thought of a perhaps better way to do this topic as... well, I stand by the value of the concept but basically putting up a bracket and walking away doesn't make a super compelling thread. So we are gonna try something slightly different this year! I will put up the initial bracket... but I'm not putting up the actual results just yet. After each round in the real life tournament I will update with what the simmed results were and we will check in real time how accurate it is being. Maybe it will go great, maybe every single team will crash out in the first 3 rounds and it'll be over quick! Maybe I took some screenshots! We'll just have to wait and see. Anyways the rest of the post will be me posting screenshots of the 4 bracket regions, and since some of the college names got cut off on those I'll list which wrestler represents which school underneath. If you don't care about that part right now you can skip the rest but let me say... of all the first round matches these calculations have offered this year's Bruno Sammartino vs David Sammartino one may have been the funniest to me. West Region1. Inoki - gonzaga 16. Momota - Georgia St 8. Asuka - Boise St 9. Onita - Memphis 5. Bret Hart - UConn 12. Kairi Sane - New Mexico St 4. Jay White - Arkansas 13. Kurrgan - Vermont 6. Ahmed johnson - Alabama 11. Dick Togo - Rutgers/ND (play-in) 3. John Cena - Texas Tech 14. Lance Cassidy - Montana St. 7. Ohtani - Michigan St 10. Dan severn - Davidson 2. Andre - Duke 15. Maryse - CSU Fullerton East Region1. Big Van Vader - Baylor 16. Tim Well - Norfolk St 8. Taijiri - North Carolina 9. Juvi - Marquette 5. Dean Ambrose - St Mary's 12. Taikawa - WYO/Ind (play-in) 4. Mutoh - UCLA 13. ECW's Jason - Akron 6. Terry Funk - Texas 11. Eddie Guerrero - Virginia Tech 3. Giant Baba - Purdue 14. Kaito Ishida - Yale 7. Shuji Ishikawa - Murray St 10. Fujiwara - San Fran 2. Undertaker - Kentucky 15. Mr. Pogo - St Peters South Region1. Verne Gagne - Arizona 16. Eric Bischoff - Wright St/Bryant (play-in) 8. Ultimo Dragon - Seton Hall 9. Flamita - TCU 5. Kenny Omega - Houston 12. 1-2-3 Kid - UAB 4. Akira Taue - illinois 13. D. Ikeda - Chattanooga 6. Barry Windham - Colorado St 11. Aleister Black - Michigan 3. Steve Austin - Tennessee 14. Junji.com - Longwood 7. Ricochet - Ohio St 10. Kurt Angle - Loyola-Chicago 2. Tenryu - Villanova 15. Punch Tominaga - Delaware Midwest Region1. Bruno Sammartino - Kansas 16. David Sammartino - TXSO/AMCC (play-in) 8. Miyahawa - San Diego St 9. ZSJ - Creighton 5. Kane - Iowa 12. Brother YASSHI - Richmond 4. Barrington Hughes - Providence 13. J. Shinzaki - South Dakota St 6. Mike Awesome - Louisiana St. 11. Jake Lee - Iowa St 3. Go Shiozaki - Wisconsin 14. Kotoka - Colgate 7. Okabayashi - USC 10. T. Kuroda - Miami 2. Tiger Mask - Auburn 16. R. hijikata - Jacksonville St
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Post by OrochiGeese on Mar 17, 2022 7:17:34 GMT
Now if anyone remembers last year I said that was possibly the last time I was going to bother simming two 32 wrestler Fire Pro tourneys to fill out my bracket, so what changed? Well for one I stumbled into watching the wrestler Andrew Everett's Fire Pro efed on twitch ('tis pretty fun) and it gave me a bit of a taste to get some simming of my own in. I also like to say hi to Orochi and Senator and make sure that they are still around and kicking. Perhaps most importantly I had a thought of a perhaps better way to do this topic as... well, I stand by the value of the concept but basically putting up a bracket and walking away doesn't make a super compelling thread. Around and kicking but those kicks have a little less oomph each year! 😅 I was just thinking of you and this thread two days ago. For some reason, I haven't seen March Madness commercials at all this month. But I saw an ad and immediately realized that we're halfway through the month but with no jd madness (preferably of the March basketball variety) post yet!! I knew you were considering hanging up the nets (or is that, removing the nets for the last time?) last year but was really hoping you'd come back! And you did!! 👏 Great to see you around and hope that you had a great year 😄 Senator is around as well 😎 So we are gonna try something slightly different this year! I will put up the initial bracket... but I'm not putting up the actual results just yet. After each round in the real life tournament I will update with what the simmed results were and we will check in real time how accurate it is being. Maybe it will go great, maybe every single team will crash out in the first 3 rounds and it'll be over quick! Maybe I took some screenshots! We'll just have to wait and see. It's cool that you are trying a different approach just so that you have something new to work with and hopefully it will be fun enough that you want to keep doing these! 🏀 I definitely like this real-time approach too.
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Post by Senator Phillips on Mar 19, 2022 0:34:18 GMT
Love seeing this back! Hoping things are going well for you!
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Post by jd on Mar 19, 2022 18:42:06 GMT
Glad to see you are both doing well and that I don't have to worry about Orochi's kicks as much :) The first round is complete so let's see how we are doing! West regionFire Pro successfully predicted the biggest round 1 upset in the west region, with Kairi Sane (representing New Mexico St.) toppling Bret Hart and UConn in the only 100% rated match in the entire first round thanks to her Insane Elbow off the top. It also predict a couple other upsets that did not take place, going for an additional 10 seed upset with Dan Severn and Davidson instead of the actual 11 seed upset of Dick Togo and Notre Dame. That said it did successfully predict most of the top seeds of Inoki, Andre and Cena advancing so the prospects moving forward are still fairly strong. Still in play:1. Inoki - gonzaga 9. Onita - Memphis 12. Kairi Sane - New Mexico St 3. John Cena - Texas Tech 2. Andre - Duke East RegionThe East region may have went the roughest of the four, with half of the results being predicted incorrectly. Of course the glass half-full take is that it got half correct! Fire Pro is fond of underdogs in general and this sadly was a fairly chalk region in the first round with 7 of the 8 games going to the higher seed. Of course the one upset that did take place here was one of the biggest in the history of the tournament with St Peters (represented by Mr. Pogo) topping the mighty Kentucky (represented by Undertaker). Even Fire Pro thought that was too unlikely to happen! Still in play:1. Big Van Vader - Baylor 4. Mutoh - UCLA 3. Giant Baba - Purdue 7. Shuji Ishikawa - Murray StSouth regionFire Pro knew what I was gonna write about last region and gave me a straight chalk region with every singe higher seed advancing, just to keep me on my toes. It got 6 of the 8 games right though so I won't complain. The closest it came to producing an upset was Punch Tominaga and Delaware over Tenryu and Villanova in a blood soaked brawl that had a few legit near fall teases. The most impressive wrestler in this region though had to be Ricochet representing Ohio State who just overwhelmed and dominated Kurt Angle and Loyola-Chicago. Based on the first round he'd be one of the ones to watch moving forward. Still in play: 1. Verne Gagne - Arizona
5. Kenny Omega - Houston
4. Akira Taue - illinois
3. Steve Austin - Tennessee
7. Ricochet - Ohio St
2. Tenryu - Villanova
Midwest regionThis is where I started getting actively confused as Fire Pro spit out a second straight almost entirely chalk region with only a single mild 9 over 8 upset. Some of you recall prior march madness brackets or hell have simmed enough yourselves to know that running a 32 wrestler tourney (which is what this was) and having the favorite win virtually every single first round match is almost unheard of. Of course this region had three upsets but in the long run picking favorites generally pays off, is this going to be the calmest Fire Pro tourney ever run or does chaos await in future rounds? I guess we'll find out soon. Still in play: 1. Bruno Sammartino - Kansas
9. ZSJ - Creighton
4. Barrington Hughes - Providence
3. Go Shiozaki - Wisconsin
2. Tiger Mask - Auburn
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Post by OrochiGeese on Mar 20, 2022 8:28:02 GMT
Wow, this was cool:
Huge upset and the 100% rating - nice 🏆
Yeah, I can definitely appreciate that.
Hope you are having fun with this new format so far. It sounds like you are! 😄
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Post by jd on Mar 21, 2022 6:45:07 GMT
The second round is complete and I'd say it was a more... let's say eventful round. West regionLet's start with the good news west region. It ended up going straight chalk in round 2 and Fire Pro went mostly the same. Some of the matches were rather tight (the pictured Cena/Texas Tech vs. Ahmed Johnson/Alabama match in particular was a back and forth bombfest) but the favorites won out. Looking ahead it appears that we are in pretty strong shape with 75% of the region's teams accurately predicted. Still in play:1. Inoki - gonzaga3. John Cena - Texas Tech2. Andre - DukeEast region
This was a rough round for #1 seeds in real life as while only one lost (which is still unexpected this early) they all faced tough challenges with two of the four games going into overtime, including the actual Baylor/Vader game. Real life had Baylor just barely fall, but Fire Pro saw Vader move on. Still two of the remaining three teams/wrestlers were picked correctly. Ishikawa/Murray St. had an unexpectedly easy opponent in St. Peters (would have been Mr Pogo if he didn't get counted out in round 1) yet still somehow fell short to the tourney's biggest cinderella, and let me tell you I'm sad not to have Mr Pogo as my own personal cinderella in this. Still both Mutoh/UCLA and Baba/Purdue are alive and likely the favorites in their next round encounters. Still in play: 4. Mutoh - UCLA 3. Giant Baba - Purdue
South region
Well this was a disaster and the region is essentially dead to us already. This is in a word bad by any standards and as early as it could conceivably happen (picking all 8 first round matches wrong is nearly impossible), but there is a couple things worth touching on here. The grayed out option in the bracket represents a game/match taking place where neither of the participants were still active, basically a "ghost" matchup. It will surely pop up again in the future. Also this particular nonexistent matchup showed that Fire Pro predicted at least one second round 1-8 upset which actually took place, just one region over from where predicted. Anyways since we're dead here we can cheat and look ahead at the predicted future that never happened. Fire Pro predicted a southern region reign of terror by Steve Austin and his killshot stunner. Not to spoil but there were only 3 criticals in the entire 64 wrestler tourney; Austin had two of them in back-to-back region matches with those who survived not being able to kick out of a second one. Instead in real life Tennessee and he were victims of the region's biggest upset of the first two rounds. Still in play: NoneMidwest regionWell this region is a struggle as well, with only the top seed Bruno Sammartino/Kansas still alive. There isn't a lot to say here so I want to bring up a big picture notion for people who read this to keep in mind. In my group of friends this bracket is in last place currently through two rounds, but that is to be expected. The idea is to have Fire Pro via simming number-based matchups predict which teams make it far, which means we are hoping to get the few high value picks correct. What this means is that only having one wrestler/team left means that we just have one less lotto ticket in play, not that we are out of it. It being the top seed is a bit less than ideal though as generally speaking our friend is chaos, a bloodbath where many top teams struggle and fall will hurt us less than it likely hurts everyone else. All of the top teams struggling this round is a good harbinger for us, and even when a loss of one of them hurts us short term (such as Vader/Baylor losing) it hurts almost everyone else picking as well and in all likelihood hurts them more as they are more likely to have more traditional favorite-heavy brackets. Still in play:1. Bruno Sammartino - Kansas---Well the the tourney is on break for the next few days and hence so shall this topic. I'll likely be back Saturday afternoon to update what our prospects are looking like.
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Post by jd on Mar 26, 2022 18:53:44 GMT
The Sweet 16 is now complete and it is time to survey the damage. West regionThe big news of not only the region but perhaps the entire round was the fall of Gonzaga/Inoki. They were not only the tourney's overall #1 seed but by advanced stats they were markedly above even the next best team. To put in Fire Pro terms, they were represented by a 267 point edit; the next highest of the 64 included wrestlers was 231 (the lowest was 42 if you want to know what the "zero" score is). Fire Pro had them winning and they did not... but I am okay with this. I am because the two people I really want to beat both had Gonzaga/Inoki winning the entire thing which means their loss lowers their possible max score by about 600 points. At worst this bracket suffers the same fate, but if not it could potentially help us tremendously. Fortunately out other pick in the region went perfectly as we had both Andre/Duke and Cena/Texas tech making it to this game, and Andre/Duke winning it. Much like the actual game itself it was close and competitive throughout with Cena managing to both AA Andre and lock him in the STF (brief digression: Andre/Cena would have likely ruled in real life) but Andre's sheer mass eventually proved to be too much. Still in play:2. Andre - DukeEast regionWell there's no good way to sugar coat this one, this was a disaster. We had both #4 Mutoh/UCLA and #3 Baba/Purdue in this round and picked to win against sizable underdogs #8 North Carolina and #15 St. Peters (would have been represented by Taijiri and Mr. Pogo respectively), yet both underdogs pulled it off somehow. Amazingly this includes a #15 seed making the Elite 8 which has literally never happened before in either real life or any of my Fire Pro sims, basically it is so unbelievable of a storyline that not even a wrestling video game would believe it. We're dead in this region now after being positioned wonderfully, but at least it was in service of such a tale. Anyways, here is what Fire Pro had predicted for the future... Obviously it came down to Mutoh and Baba with Mutoh just teeing off on Baba's spindly legs. Clearly the plan was the chop down the giant in order the set him up for a shining wizard or moonsault, but ultimately Baba proved to be too much and stunned Mutoh with a big dropkick just long enough to catch him with a sudden 3 count (so sudden there wasn't a screenshot taken). #3 Baba/Purdue would have made the final 4 if not for all those darn cinderellas. Still in play: none
South region: Dead
Midwest region
Surprise, we were done here before this round even started. We only had Bruno Sammartino/Kansas left in play in this region and we had them losing this round (in real life they won) so there was no real path forward. I could have spoiled that last week, but where would the fun in that have been? Anyways with our third (*gulp*) region dead let's once more look at the future we didn't have. Fire Pro predicted a battle of relatively low seeds with #5 Kane/Iowa against #7 Okabayashi/USC, or as I like to call it big men slappin' meat. Not a lot of technique, whole bunch of clubberin' and tossing each other around ended up with a cinderella pick of #7 Okabayashi moving on to the final 4. Still in play: none
Well it is time to state the obvious: all of our hopes and dreams come down to a single wrestler/team as we've only got one of the final eight picked right. That seems bad, and it isn't great, but there are silver linings here. First off Fire Pro did accurately pick three of the four 1 seeds being eliminated by this point which is a point in its favor in terms of predictive ability and a sign that many other brackets are also in shaky condition. It also predicted two fairly chalk regions and two fairly chaotic ones which is relatively close to what has taken place, although in a rare twist real life went with more major upsets than the game. Ultimately though what it comes down to is that while we only have one pick left... it's Andre the fucking Giant. If you gotta go all in on someone go with the giant!
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Post by OrochiGeese on Mar 27, 2022 7:05:16 GMT
Quite a dramatic round! 😲
East region was just wow, even Fire Pro's chaotic RNG engine couldn't predict real life there.
Sounds like Fire Pro did pretty well here. And you are getting some fun matches out of it so far.
And certainly, Andre is one whose shoulders can be ridden to victory!
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Post by jd on Mar 28, 2022 5:52:10 GMT
Elite Eight time, with only one region we have to worry about anymore. West regionUnfortunately while in real life #2 Duke got to face a more manageable #4 Arkansas Fire Pro had #2 Andre the Giant have to face off with the dominant overall #1 seed Inoki. A giant is always a problem to deal with but few edits in the game are as potentially dangerous and hit quite as hard as Inoki, who hit his kicks and took apart the Andre's legs until... ...he got his ass beat! Andre and Duke advance... but is that what Fire Pro predicted? Final Four We are still alive with only two rounds left! These are the big point rounds with the semis worth 160 points and a finals win worth 320, and looking at the rest of the group I am primarily competing against (i.e. my two buds) all of us only have 1 team left alive. Let me post an updated "real life" bracket: They both have Kansas left... but neither of them picked Kansas to win the championship (both had the aforementioned Gonzaga/Inoki). They are both ahead of me, but not by 160 points. If Kansas loses they lose every remaining possible point, the same being true for Andre, Duke and I. Kansas is legit as hell (they were represented by Bruno Sammartino) but we are close to the end game now and exactly where we wanted to be. Next Saturday could see us end up locked in last or secure first... or perhaps even see things drawn all the way to the actual championship game with literally everything on the line. No pressure.
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Post by OrochiGeese on Mar 28, 2022 10:10:53 GMT
Huge, huge win for Andre!
Looked like a real banger in the ring too with Inoki's offense hitting, the match going 15 minutes, but Andre still winning. Very dramatic match for this round and glad that you're still alive in this! 👏
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Post by jd on Apr 3, 2022 21:39:17 GMT
Previously in this topic...The Final Four...Last it is. In retrospect perhaps Fire Pro should have realized that making multiple giants work five matches in a single day tourney was a bad idea. While they did successfully predict Duke/Andre making it this far, and did have them winning this matchup, in reality they simply ran out of gas and lost a close matchup to a non-giant who had a bit more left in the tank. A good run was had, but unfortunately things came up just a bit short. You know what the bothersome part was though? Fire Pro actually had Andre/Duke winning the whole thing, so we had a full 480 points still in play coming into this round. That means not only could we have won our group, but we had a chance to put up a legit very respectable score beyond that. It's a bittersweet what if, but we were competitive up to the very end.
So time to take a final look back at how we did. While the final game is still left to play assuming North Carolina doesn't pull off a sizable upset my brackets percentile performance should remain about the same (and if that upset does occur it should only knock it down a bit). 440 isn't a particularly great score but being at 27.7 percent means that Fire Pro picked a bracket that beat one out of every four submitted to ESPN. To be fair a lot of brackets were picked at random or not completed or by other various insane ways but even all that considered... a good number of people nationwide picked an honest bracket and got beat by a wrestling video game. Taking a quick peak at other brackets a win this round would have put us a bit over 50% and a win in the finals probably would have put us I'd guess at least at 70%. Fire Pro flirted with doing some real damage this year. On a more micro level performance two regions (south and midwest) were pretty much a disaster but the other two were picked legit very well. In the West we picked the winner correctly and were generally fairly accurate in our results, and in the East it took a pair of massive upsets almost no one anywhere predicted to prevent us from having the elite eight match-up picked perfectly. Literally no bracket anywhere is ever picked perfectly and is always haunted by some what ifs, but I think this ended up being a credible bracket and so even though it ended in defeat I say that FPW did a rather respectable job. Kudos to Fire Pro! ...I'd seriously like to win one of these sometime though :\
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Post by OrochiGeese on Apr 5, 2022 8:26:00 GMT
Agreed, kudos to Fire Pro!! I think it had a strong performance this year 🔥🏆
It also didn't realize that the RNG of the real world is even more broken than ever. So it did what it could!
Whoops 😬
Phew 😅
This makes me very happy 😄
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Post by jd on Apr 5, 2022 22:56:32 GMT
In the sake of transparency I checked what my bracket's percentile performance was after the championship game (what a choke job BTW >_> ) and it stayed exactly the same at 27.7. Since I have some slight access to final numbers now a score of 710 finished in the 82.3 percentile, and that was with a tourney favorite winning; if Duke/Andre held on in the semis and won the whole thing my bracket score I believe would have been 920. It didn't happen but given how they lead most of the semis until the very end and how much of a collapse it took for Kansas to actually win... we were legit a couple plays away from this Fire Pro bracket finishing well in the 90+ percentile. If that had happened... man you'd probably have to retire on that great of an outcome. ...So I guess that means I'll see you all again next year
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Post by jd on Mar 14, 2023 22:09:38 GMT
Sup. So it is once again mid-March and they are playing a big college basketball tournament soon and brackets have to be filled out and such. Okay I'm gonna level with you all: unlike I assume most Fire Pro projects this thing operates under a very tight time constraint; the brackets are announced Sunday evening and the games start Thursday around noon. That leaves about three days to calculate all the numbers, figure out which edit matches each team's given number, then simming two 32 wrestler tourneys and a final match. Add in taking screenshots and writing stuff up (the latter of which admittedly is done later) and it is a lot of work for such a short period of time and... I'm just not up for all that this year (I'm also away tomorrow which doesn't help). Now this doesn't mean I fully abandoned ship, I still did the numbers part and such, I even simmed the tourneys to figure out my bracket... I just did it at 800 game speed while not paying a ton of attention. You get the bracket and the results but no pretty pictures or stories this year, hence no new topic and just piggy-backing off the old one. Also hi Orochi and Senator, hope you are both well :) The first tournament produced complete and utter chaos with lower seeds dominating and two 12 seeds making the Final Four. If that actually happens this will be just about the only bracket that has it... but I doubt it will be even close. Thankfully the other simmed tourney produced something somewhat sensible, and what a story the midwest bracket produced with the two puro legends who said goodbye in recent months (one somewhat more permanently than the other >_>) meeting in the regional finals to see who advanced to the Final Four. #3 seed Mutoh won the clash and the chance to win the whole thing his retirement year. The West region also had a good story (I mostly missed), with #1 seed and widely acknowledged legend Kawada facing off against his under-appreciated underdog longtime partner #11 seed Akira Taue. I peaked in on this battle and despite taking place so late in the tourney it went 20+ minutes with Taue falling just short again. I feel heading into the final four the sympathetic favorite has to be Mutoh, following up his retirement tour and Dome show finale with a deep run here. Could he possibly pull it off? So close but no, he fell in the finals to the dreaded #12 seed Joe Doering, who I guess is battling brain cancer again and hence is the even more sympathetic figure now that I think about it. Get well soon Joe! Anyways I guess the only sane move now is to go bet all my savings on #12 Charleston winning the NCAA men's basketball championship and become a millionaire.
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Post by OrochiGeese on Mar 17, 2023 4:54:05 GMT
Sup. So it is once again mid-March and they are playing a big college basketball tournament soon and brackets have to be filled out and such. Yes, the JD March Madness post!! 👏 Also hi Orochi and Senator, hope you are both well :) Right back at you!! I hope that you had a great year! Things are ok...and busy, but ok! I'll take "ok" these days! (orange cassidy style) 👍 Okay I'm gonna level with you all: unlike I assume most Fire Pro projects this thing operates under a very tight time constraint; the brackets are announced Sunday evening and the games start Thursday around noon. That leaves about three days to calculate all the numbers, figure out which edit matches each team's given number, then simming two 32 wrestler tourneys and a final match. Add in taking screenshots and writing stuff up (the latter of which admittedly is done later) and it is a lot of work for such a short period of time and... I'm just not up for all that this year (I'm also away tomorrow which doesn't help). It's so much better that you enjoy this and do what you can then feel like it's a chore. Now this doesn't mean I fully abandoned ship, I still did the numbers part and such, I even simmed the tourneys to figure out my bracket... I just did it at 800 game speed while not paying a ton of attention. You get the bracket and the results but no pretty pictures or stories this year, hence no new topic and just piggy-backing off the old one. Everything you did here is still fun and appreciated! The first tournament produced complete and utter chaos with lower seeds dominating and two 12 seeds making the Final Four. If that actually happens this will be just about the only bracket that has it... but I doubt it will be even close. I haven't followed it much but I heard tonight there was one big upset. I don't know if that has been the rule. If it is, then I think we know Fire Pro's RNG has gone emergent! #3 seed Mutoh won the clash and the chance to win the whole thing his retirement year. I feel heading into the final four the sympathetic favorite has to be Mutoh, following up his retirement tour and Dome show finale with a deep run here. Could he possibly pull it off? So fitting that Mutoh made it to the Finals! The West region also had a good story (I mostly missed), with #1 seed and widely acknowledged legend Kawada facing off against his under-appreciated underdog longtime partner #11 seed Akira Taue. I peaked in on this battle and despite taking place so late in the tourney it went 20+ minutes with Taue falling just short again. Nice, there's always time for an AJPW tribute match in the tournament! So close but no, he fell in the finals to the dreaded #12 seed Joe Doering, who I guess is battling brain cancer again and hence is the even more sympathetic figure now that I think about it. Get well soon Joe! Anyways I guess the only sane move now is to go bet all my savings on #12 Charleston winning the NCAA men's basketball championship and become a millionaire. I didn't know that about Doering but yeah, he gets the sympathy vote this time! Still credit to Mutoh for making it this far. Mutoh/technical edits in FPW sometimes have an uphill battle to climb. If you become a millionaire, buy Spike and try to fix the engine that produced the results from your first tournament 😄
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