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Post by OrochiGeese on Feb 23, 2022 5:23:53 GMT
I have no issue with anyone using my drafted edits in anyway for their needs. You can change the name, appearance, gender, sex, whatever. No one has to use the history/origins of the edit I am sharing either. I provide that for those interested and getting it onto the page and out of my brain. I love the history/origin posts 😄 Doji O-Ushi: Doji grew up loving two things. Wrestling and mushrooms. After finishing high school, Doji told her professional mushroom farming family she was leaving Kyushu and moving to the big city of Osaka to be a pro wrestler. Despite their worry, she was granted her go and soon found herself in Matsu Toki's dojo. Despite being the smallest and least experienced wrestler in the class, Toki liked her, especially when his own daughter became Doji's first fan. Since graduating, Doji has made her way across several small regional indies in Japan and Korea but recently signed an open contract with Blood Blossom Wrestling. Despite her size, she was the first wrestler in 2 years to pin Andrea Giantess clean. Immense power in a small package, just like a mushroom! That is such a great profile and it made me love her even more than I already did!! 🍄 power!! She'll have a very welcoming new home in OG-Joshi 👏 Coach Jean Carter: "Luke, I need you to help me welcome Doji!" Luke Kisiera: "Okay but why me?" Jean: "Cause you're... *Jean stifles her laughter to complete the joke.* Luke: "I'm what?" Jean: "A fun guy!" 🥁 |
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Post by knocked on Feb 23, 2022 10:01:14 GMT
I'll select Drake Ernie. Gives me a mid-2000s Indy Worker vibe.
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Post by desertpunk34 on Feb 23, 2022 11:38:12 GMT
You did ask about whether or not us modifying the edits would change your original versions. So we at least knew you were still going to use your edits even if we weren't sure about you booking them. In any case, I don't think you did anything wrong here that goes against the nature of the draft. And I don't think your desire to still book your edits is wrong while allowing us to use "free agent" versions that we modify in any way that we want and essentially turn into new edits if we want. Personally, I want you to continue to book the edits I drafted of yours now that I fully know your original intentions. It's not like you are taking the edits back or anything. You aren't saying that we can't use them. You are just saying that you still want to use the ones you created and that continuing to use them was your original intention even if it wasn't stated as clearly at the start. No one is actively getting hurt here by you still booking your edits while we use our free agents versions in our feds. But you would be hurt if you couldn't book your original versions anymore in your feds. I originally had wrote a decent 2 paragraphs for this post but I for some reason clicked back and then refreshed in my half asleep stupidity. At any rate lol. I figure at any given time I book/focus on maybe 30-40 wrestlers out of 680. Spanning various feds that only get booked in my head on a whim. What I do book goes to a paper note book old school style. I might share some stuff with kidcage, Bombay or Geese, but it's mostly all just for me. So I have zero qualm with anyone using my edits, especially those ive sent out into the drafts. It actually gives me more joy to see someone enjoy a edit ive made, than to sim them for myself. I imagine it's always been that way, like when i made every real world wrestler I could back on FPR, even when i could of cared less about most of said wrestlers or simming them. |
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Post by OrochiGeese on Feb 23, 2022 13:10:31 GMT
knocked - you still have one more pick since you are at the bottom of the order. Your last pick ended Round 21 and your next pick starts Round 22 😎 You have until 5:00 PM on February 24 to choose. Quick Results of Draft:
First Round
desertpunk34 - Nathan Greenbeans
faulknasty - Seaside Boyz: Zack Attack and Diamond Screecher
kidcage - Koko Watchout
ravenbrighid - Goro Murakami
orochigeese - Alp Line Express: Handsome Jeffery Alpine & Son of Krampus. (SoK is non-exclusive.)
knocked - Mario Gallo
tigerstripepro - Ryo Sakura (non-exclusive)
Second Round
tigerstripepro - Lexes Mercury (non-exclusive)
knocked - Geno White
orochigeese - Bad Storm: SHOKAI and TAKKAI
ravenbrighid - Midnight Sons: Rico Hayes and Rick Goldsmith
kidcage - Kiki Kitsuke
faulknasty - Hanshin Deathmatch Tiger
desertpunk34 - Saturn
Third Round
desertpunk34 - Kings Table: Maitre D'Orlan & Waiter Mask
faulknasty - Elvira Scream
kidcage - Squid Jr.
ravenbrighid - Vampire
orochigeese - Mal del Thorn
knocked - "The Dealer" Ric Miller.
tigerstripepro - Cojones Jones (non-exclusive)
Fourth Round
tigerstripepro - Hillbilly Badman (non-exclusive)
knocked - Hercules Haynes
orochigeese - Tom Flikkema
ravenbrighid - Lexes Mercury (non-exclusive)
kidcage - Pierre De Buffon
faulknasty - Noi Sudham
desertpunk34 - Eskiman Edit 1
Fifth Round
desertpunk34 - Raven Edit 1
faulknasty - Poison Cults and Cults Kawasaki.
kidcage - Hyper Dragon
ravenbrighid - Deathmatch Mercenary
orochigeese - Sean B. Parker
knocked - Chuck Guttenburg
tigerstripepro - Blue Hanzo (non-exclusive)
Sixth Round
tigerstripepro - Circus Acrobat (non-exclusive)
knocked - King Van Beethoven
orochigeese - Shy Suplex Girl
ravenbrighid - Eskiman Edit 3
kidcage - Pasion Nights
faulknasty - Miami Porsche
desertpunk34 - Alonzo Flippo
Seventh Round
desertpunk34 - Tundra Wurm
faulknasty - Moon Mask
kidcage - Caesar Robinson
ravenbrighid - Circus Acrobat (exclusive)
orochigeese - Maritime Foxes: Joseph Paladin & Yuji Dancer
knocked - Red Hawks: Waylon Murdock & Juan Villegas
tigerstripepro - Curt Nakai
Eighth Round
tigerstripepro - Creed Jackson (non-exclusive)
knocked - Rutger Galway
orochigeese - Esoteric Martial Artist
ravenbrighid - Vaderess
kidcage - Doji
faulknasty - Mr. Liquid
desertpunk34 - Fist Lampjaw
Ninth Round
desertpunk34 - Leechman
faulknasty - Becca Elixir
kidcage - Mashsura Nara
ravenbrighid - Juan Cabrera
orochigeese - Petro Aalto
knocked - Derek Delta
tigerstripepro - Slapstick (non-exclusive)
Tenth Round
tigerstripepro - Chris Kegman (non-exclusive)
knocked - Bobby Dash Flash
orochigeese - Ben Takagi
ravenbrighid - Xion Kingdom
kidcage - River Bear
faulknasty - Nena Flippo
Zealot - Gama Gazdar
Eleventh Round
Zealot - Crystal Reeves
faulknasty - Marx Mask II
kidcage - Steve L.Ray
ravenbrighid - Japanese Cowboy
orochigeese - Hida Reju
knocked - David Van Gogh
tigerstripepro - Big John Fuller (non-exclusive)
Twelfth Round
tigerstripepro - Mungo Mack (non-exclusive)
knocked - Brannigan Hooke
orochigeese - Flame Valentine
ravenbrighid - Western Technician: Cowboy Shit!
kidcage - Vic Deniro
faulknasty - Kinji Kaii
Zealot - Atom Justice
Thirteenth Round
Zealot - Knife Hatchet
faulknasty - Prince Kitsune
kidcage - Horseshoe
ravenbrighid - Lolo Channel
orochigeese - Andre Dante
knocked - Thane Pearce
tigerstripepro - Lurcan Busick (non-exclusive)
Fourteenth Round
tigerstripepro - Masked Shooter (non-exclusive)
knocked - Fred Callis
orochigeese - Hijo del Wolf
ravenbrighid - POWER Thunder! Thunder Djinn and Thunder Ryger
kidcage - "British Fancy Lad" Sidney Peacock
faulknasty - Pinata
Zealot - Katya Kulagina
Fifteenth Round
Zealot - Lucille Aguayo
faulknasty - Montgomery Hornet
kidcage - Matt Electric
ravenbrighid - Mystery Muscle
orochigeese - Ryo Sakura
knocked - Cobain
tigerstripepro - Sgt. Heidenreich (non-exclusive)
Sixteenth Round
tigerstripepro - Bravo Belton (non-exclusive)
knocked - Marko Koslov (non-exclusive)
orochigeese - Katakuri
ravenbrighid - Slapstick
kidcage - Monte Juan Carlo
faulknasty - Abraham Cults
Zealot - Stardust Cowboy
Seventeenth Round
Zealot - Boomhauer Tulk
faulknasty - Leo Corino
kidcage - Fly*ing Matsumoto
ravenbrighid - Mistress Angora
orochigeese - Doji O-Ushi
knocked - Kurt Hanover
tigerstripepro - King Kash (non-exclusive)
Eighteenth Round
knocked - Carl Buckly
orochigeese - RAGE
ravenbrighid - Mystery Leather
kidcage - Mighty Yankee
faulknasty - Mike Channels
Zealot - Faaborg
Nineteenth Round
Zealot - Dane Kitt
faulknasty - Matsu Toki
kidcage - Eric Hoyt
ravenbrighid - Mr. Desirable Disaster
orochigeese - Nagai Saki
knocked - Cosmo Opex
Twentieth Round
knocked - Eddie Crusier
orochigeese - Fritz Gunnerson
ravenbrighid - Tennessee Mafia: Fancy Jones & Gerald Smithly
kidcage - Madonna Pod
faulknasty - Judy Byrd
Zealot - Evil Bo Tang
Twenty-first Round
Zealot - Eskiman Edit 2
faulknasty - Dawn Rubella
kidcage - Nick Devon
ravenbrighid - Great Basil
orochigeese - Blue Hanzo
knocked - Drake Ernie
Twenty-second Round
knocked -
orochigeese -
ravenbrighid -
kidcage -
faulknasty -
Twenty-third Round
faulknasty -
kidcage -
ravenbrighid -
orochigeese -
knocked -
Twenty-fourth Round
knocked -
orochigeese -
ravenbrighid -
kidcage -
faulknasty -
Twenty-fifth Round
faulknasty -
kidcage -
ravenbrighid -
orochigeese -
knocked -
Twenty-sixth Round
knocked -
orochigeese -
ravenbrighid -
kidcage -
faulknasty -
Twenty-seventh Round
faulknasty -
kidcage -
ravenbrighid -
orochigeese -
knocked -
Twenty-eighth Round
knocked -
orochigeese -
ravenbrighid -
kidcage -
faulknasty -
Twenty-ninth Round
faulknasty -
kidcage -
ravenbrighid -
orochigeese -
knocked -
Thirtieth Round
knocked -
orochigeese -
ravenbrighid -
kidcage -
faulknasty -
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Post by OrochiGeese on Feb 23, 2022 13:33:38 GMT
I originally had wrote a decent 2 paragraphs for this post but I for some reason clicked back and then refreshed in my half asleep stupidity. At any rate lol. The back-arrow CRITICALS! yet another promising post 😥 I figure at any given time I book/focus on maybe 30-40 wrestlers out of 680. Spanning various feds that only get booked in my head on a whim. What I do book goes to a paper note book old school style. I might share some stuff with kidcage, Bombay or Geese, but it's mostly all just for me. I wish I had a spiral or marble paper notebook to show for all of this e-fedding, with funny drawings of my edits. What I have is a f'n battalion of .txt files. All my booking is in .txt and .rtf files. It's a mess but it's somehow worked for me over the years. And I do so much booking in my head that never produces anything in reality cause I'm always thinking 3 years ahead of my actual storylines in real time. That leads to a massive amount of storylines dropped due to getting tired of them by the time it's actually time to write them out 😅 I also have so many RP's occur in my head that I wish I wrote out but don't. But I kind of like that even with all the time I've put into my feds over the years, there is still some material that only I really got to experience. Like a backstage "Goose's cut" DVD of the action. So I have zero qualm with anyone using my edits, especially those ive sent out into the drafts. It actually gives me more joy to see someone enjoy a edit ive made, than to sim them for myself. And I have zero qualm with you continuing to use/book/brainstorm any long time edits of yours that I drafted. I don't want you to part with them if you still have any attachment to them. Even Rage, LOL 😁 |
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Post by ravenbrighid on Feb 23, 2022 15:40:07 GMT
So I want to address TigerStripePro because honestly, I was the one who encouraged him to come forward with this information. Mostly because I was concerned about some potential misunderstanding and that leading to upset feelings. I had suggested contacting OrochiGeese specifically, but I think posting in the thread was reasonable. All this is to say, I also have 0 issues with him (or others) continuing to use the longtime edits. Canon may get a little funky, but honestly my promotion in particular has a good explanation for funky canon given that Dr. Thunder likes to copy people throughout the multiverse to bring them into her fed, Blue Thunder Pro. Plus im also more than happy say, to share my work on someone's edits and show what I did with them. And im always open to ppeople booking my edits as well. I dont think TSP did anything wrong, at all. There may have been confusion, or miscommunication, but no malice. :) |
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Post by TigerStripePro on Feb 23, 2022 18:45:40 GMT
I'll select Drake Ernie. Gives me a mid-2000s Indy Worker vibe. Very much in terms of design. Drake Eerie is a bit deathmatch-y but thankfully doesn't believe in Qanon or Covid denialism. |
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Post by OrochiGeese on Feb 24, 2022 6:30:14 GMT
So I want to address TigerStripePro because honestly, I was the one who encouraged him to come forward with this information. Mostly because I was concerned about some potential misunderstanding and that leading to upset feelings. I had suggested contacting OrochiGeese specifically, but I think posting in the thread was reasonable. I'm very glad that you did encourage him to discuss this. You were right that it was better to bring the issue up now before it potentially became a problem. I'm really glad that everyone is cool with it 😎 And TSP actually did PM me after he talked to you 😀 I then suggested that he should mention it to everyone here. I also told him that I was totally cool with what his intentions were and very much wanted him to continue to use the edits that I had drafted of his. All this is to say, I also have 0 issues with him (or others) continuing to use the longtime edits. Canon may get a little funky, but honestly my promotion in particular has a good explanation for funky canon given that Dr. Thunder likes to copy people throughout the multiverse to bring them into her fed, Blue Thunder Pro. Plus im also more than happy say, to share my work on someone's edits and show what I did with them. And im always open to ppeople booking my edits as well. I've always had kind of a "buffet style" canon relationship with other promotions. If handlers in my feds want me to acknowledge what their edits have done in other feds, I'm more than happy to do so and put over their feds. But if they want a fresh start in my fed, I can do that too. I've had characters be heels in my promotion while being faces in other promotions. It's not an issue for me at all. Heck, my fed could work with TSP's fed and we don't have to acknowledge that we both have someone that looks identical (due to being the same edit but changed) in each of our feds and even have them on the same show. As long as it's not the same match, it's fine. My fed operates in its own universe except when it doesn't, basically. A loose relationship with canon is one perk of doing e-feds based on fictional characters in video games. Since we have unique limitations (like the game ruining matches based on RNG), it's only fair we have unique perks 😄 That being said - I still acknowledge and respect history in other e-feds better than WWE can be bothered to do within their own fed...even within like a 3 month period. I also don't constantly rename my wrestlers every few months only to release them when my latest asinine name ruins their heat from NXT... P.S. "Funky canon" sounds like it would either be a great band name or great name for an e-fed show 😄 I dont think TSP did anything wrong, at all. There may have been confusion, or miscommunication, but no malice. :) 100% agreed. TSP has no malice in him 😎 Some of his edits, on the other hand, scare the shit out of me 😅 *Looks at Katakuri* 😳 |
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Post by knocked on Feb 24, 2022 9:55:00 GMT
Anyways. Is Desertpunk's BLANK EDIT available for Drafting? Will put it under non-exclusive.
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Post by ravenbrighid on Feb 24, 2022 10:42:56 GMT
Anyways. Is Desertpunk's BLANK EDIT available for Drafting? Will put it under non-exclusive. I'm genuinely unsure which edit you're referencing here? |
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Post by OrochiGeese on Feb 24, 2022 11:33:23 GMT
Yeah, same here. I'm not sure what "BLANK EDIT" is. Maybe desertpunk34 can clarify and say if he is willing to make him eligible to be drafted. |
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Post by knocked on Feb 24, 2022 12:28:33 GMT
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Post by TigerStripePro on Feb 24, 2022 14:58:28 GMT
So I want to address TigerStripePro because honestly, I was the one who encouraged him to come forward with this information. Mostly because I was concerned about some potential misunderstanding and that leading to upset feelings. I had suggested contacting OrochiGeese specifically, but I think posting in the thread was reasonable. I'm very glad that you did encourage him to discuss this. You were right that it was better to bring the issue up now before it potentially became a problem. I'm really glad that everyone is cool with it 😎 And TSP actually did PM me after he talked to you 😀 I then suggested that he should mention it to everyone here. I also told him that I was totally cool with what his intentions were and very much wanted him to continue to use the edits that I had drafted of his. All this is to say, I also have 0 issues with him (or others) continuing to use the longtime edits. Canon may get a little funky, but honestly my promotion in particular has a good explanation for funky canon given that Dr. Thunder likes to copy people throughout the multiverse to bring them into her fed, Blue Thunder Pro. Plus im also more than happy say, to share my work on someone's edits and show what I did with them. And im always open to ppeople booking my edits as well. I've always had kind of a "buffet style" canon relationship with other promotions. If handlers in my feds want me to acknowledge what their edits have done in other feds, I'm more than happy to do so and put over their feds. But if they want a fresh start in my fed, I can do that too. I've had characters be heels in my promotion while being faces in other promotions. It's not an issue for me at all. Heck, my fed could work with TSP's fed and we don't have to acknowledge that we both have someone that looks identical (due to being the same edit but changed) in each of our feds and even have them on the same show. As long as it's not the same match, it's fine. My fed operates in its own universe except when it doesn't, basically. A loose relationship with canon is one perk of doing e-feds based on fictional characters in video games. Since we have unique limitations (like the game ruining matches based on RNG), it's only fair we have unique perks 😄 That being said - I still acknowledge and respect history in other e-feds better than WWE can be bothered to do within their own fed...even within like a 3 month period. I also don't constantly rename my wrestlers every few months only to release them when my latest asinine name ruins their heat from NXT... P.S. "Funky canon" sounds like it would either be a great band name or great name for an e-fed show 😄 I dont think TSP did anything wrong, at all. There may have been confusion, or miscommunication, but no malice. :) 100% agreed. TSP has no malice in him 😎 Some of his edits, on the other hand, scare the shit out of me 😅 *Looks at Katakuri* 😳 I am glad when I realized the potential issue I reached out to folks. Most of the issues I have seen between people has happened due to lack of communication. Thankfully most people still in the hobby are very cool, understanding and easy to work with. I am excited to see what everything changes or doesn't change with the edits drafted from me. In terms of continuity, whatever happens outside of TS Promotions is a different territory. Sometimes it might spill over and be recognized but other times less so. There are some edits I will follow very closely with excitement, others I am ready to let loose and free into the world. |
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Post by kidcage on Feb 24, 2022 16:18:32 GMT
What a fascinating discussion. I'll reiterate when I draft an edit, I'm perfectly cool and aware if they want to be used elsewhere or continued to be built upon, I'm always open. The one thing is it doesn't really get "kept track" in my universe. I've recently been speaking with Geese in PM about my universe history because I'm currently doing so much (so much...) work on maintaining records of 20 years of a universe.
I have an entire Google Doc folder of all the promotions, title histories, pictures of edits, etc. I went through all my feds when World came out and systematically made every edit I had made over 20 years and dozens of games - and loaded them on to the shop (Friends only) as an archive. I have four three ring binders at home that I'm printing all this stuff out for and also am in the midst of (thanks to a friend/co-worker) doing ranking formulas to not only show rankings in each promotion by year, but then do a "Pro Wrestling Independent" ranking of yearly talents. All to say - I'm a nerd for this.
Which is why when DP and I and others did the IWW a few years ago, I was always cool with my edits being used by DP (and still do) but stuff he does in his eFeds now with my edits don't impact their title history, win-loss records, etc. as much in my archive. If we were still doing IWW stuff and I could track it? Oh certainly, lol. But I also am firmly aware and happy that some edits he has loved of mine live on in his universe. Likewise, I have a few edits he made over time that I've slipped into my universe.
Nerdy ramblings point - if I ever draft an edit, I'd love to hear their background and am happy to know they are used by original owner or others. And if anyone ever downloads an edit of mine and wants to share their happenings in their universe, by all means!
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Post by ravenbrighid on Feb 24, 2022 22:26:56 GMT
desertpunk34 can you speak to the edit knocked is talking about? It doesn't appear to be on the draft list tho so i doubt its technically eligible. If it was intended to be there, im fine with a non-exclusive drafting of it. That said, do we want to move forward with OrochiGeese up next since it's after 5?
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