Move craft's potential for creating new types of movesets

This is a great idea for a thread! 💡

First I want to say that my mind is totally blown by all of this.

I feel like Fire Pro has been fundamentally changed as to how we utilize it but also how we build movesets.

All I've really been doing the past week is making moves. I haven't edited any of my wrestlers.  One reason is because making moves is so fun (both in the finished product and the process of overcoming the challenges of the mode). The other reason is because I haven't even started my Pokemon evolution as an edit maker as a result of Move Maker.

We're going to be able to create unique movesets now. 

To give an example, I started making two custom moves for one edit:  Kyle Walker.  His finisher is the C2C Elbow and his primary special is the Apron to Inside AJ Styles Elbow.   Up until this point, I could have BOTH of those moves potentially CRITICAL! in a match since they were different types. But not only did i just modify the animation of the moves to give them a little more visual impact, I also changed both of their CRITICAL! types to Striking. I plan to give him those moves and change him from "Finisher Only" to "Striking" so they each have a chance to win the match. 

And that's just a very simple example of what can be done here. 

Like you said, we're going to have so many options now to utilize late match holds that we could never use before because they could potentially end a match.  That twisting chinlock is a great example.   We could also make new spots based on strike moves.  Like imagine a spot that is basically soccer ball kicks chained together.  It won't actually cause a tap out but its a great way to punish the opponent without having to use priority slots or limit logic. 


On that note I am so happy to announce that the need for "face down" and other weird Frankenstein-edit logic strategies has now been drastically reduced.   Not eliminated, but necessary in far fewer cases.

 I made an edit two weeks ago who has a back grate into the Rainmaker Through which leads to his finisher. That's a standing spinning chop which I have set at 100% so he always does it after the Through. However, that means I couldn't ever have him pick his opponent up late match or else he'll randomly use it.   As a result he had to use a weird, unnatural combination of a ton of ground strikes, "inaction" command, and post moves. It got repetitive. 

No longer.  I can now make a version of the Rainmaker Through that includes that finisher chop animation.  It will look exactly the same (if not better) than what he's done before but I no longer have to deal with having to put the chop at 100%. I'll count the move as a modified spinning chop with the same stats as the chop but with the Rainmaker Through as the start of it.  This changes everything for so many edits of mine that use the Rainmaker Through.

I was REALLY hoping Spike would give us the ability to priority into standing attacks. I still hope they do. But they gave us the next best thing as we can now merge moves.  It gives us SO many more options.

I'm excited but I'm also humbled and a little overwhelmed. Every edit of mine will have to get remade because there are so many options now.  I can make custom finishers and finisher spots for everyone!


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That is very good advice. I need to download the mod pack suite now that Move Craft is finally out!!

I have been making a lot of variations of moves but more for their look than their dizzy status. However, I've downloaded a TON of moves that were for their dizzy status and i probably don't need to do that! 😁




Absolutely groundbreaking idea 👏

This will definitely change how we go about things.   The idea of using a down slot in ND and visually picking up an opponent for what appears to be a front or back grapple move is genius 💡

You know, I constantly forget that the damage states for the down moves don't mirror the front grapples ones. I always think that since there are 3 of each, that the damage states are the same. That leads to occasional "WTF" moments like when I see a "right slot" front grapple move come out a few seconds before a move that's only in the "middle slot" for down moves but it's not enough to jog me out of my ignorance about the situation!

Awesome thread. Following this.

I didn't try this yet but wouldn't it possible to do almost completely one sided/squash matches by using moves with self-damage only and with the roles reversed in the animation ( I.e : the attacker being on the receiving end ) ?

Yeah, you could literally make, like, a "get punched" move and give it to a jobber. When they win a grapple, they still get punched. You could really go ham on the damage, too, and get the poor sap into large basically right away, making him much more likely to start taking signature moves pretty quickly.

I've actually been thinking about ideas for this, but I haven't wanted to say anything because it was someone else's (on Discord) idea first, and I didn't want to have people think I was trying to steal it. But you could pretty much fill a small/medium grapple set with, like, get punched, get clotheslined, get countered, etc. so even when they're "winning" grapples, they're just getting their asses kicked. Just make sure it's really generic stuff so it'll look right with anybody doing it.

You can leave their large grapples as their actual moves and have them stick to those once they're in large; that way, they can have (short) matches against each other or have that surprise win chance in battle royal/tag team situations.

But yeah, we could totally design "enhancement talent" to do exactly that - put your other dudes the hell over.

Oh... animations of the attacker trying to lift or slam the defender that results in the attacker hurting their back, taking actual physical and spiritual damage. Moves with almost 0 damage with no sell from the defender... like punching a guy and he just walks through it. My god.