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Post by fignuts on Oct 18, 2019 1:21:29 GMT
What I mean is that if it literally makes whatever you put in that slot the entrance attire, then you would only be able to have entrance attire for one in ring attire at any given time. Unless the entrance attire completely covers up the in ring attire.
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Post by Dakota on Oct 18, 2019 1:27:15 GMT
Yeah, that's exactly what his Tweet implied.
On terms of things that haven't been addressed yet, I'm actually really curious to see if the edited entrances only work for singles entrances, or if they let you edit 2, 3 and 4 person entrances. And if so, how? By teams you set in the editor? By groups?
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Post by padrian on Oct 18, 2019 1:59:27 GMT
Yeah, that's exactly what his Tweet implied. On terms of things that haven't been addressed yet, I'm actually really curious to see if the edited entrances only work for singles entrances, or if they let you edit 2, 3 and 4 person entrances. And if so, how? By teams you set in the editor? By groups? All great questions. And my suspicion is options will be painfully limited. Remember Fire Promoter? So much they failed to consider on that one. |
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Post by Staubhold on Oct 18, 2019 2:01:35 GMT
Yeah, that's exactly what his Tweet implied. On terms of things that haven't been addressed yet, I'm actually really curious to see if the edited entrances only work for singles entrances, or if they let you edit 2, 3 and 4 person entrances. And if so, how? By teams you set in the editor? By groups? All great questions. And my suspicion is options will be painfully limited. Remember Fire Promoter? So much they failed to consider on that one. Yeah, I think so too... This will only work for singles entrances, I guess. I think anything that has to do with team/stable things will come with the Suda51s The Vanishing DLC. |
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Post by Severla on Oct 18, 2019 2:37:15 GMT
No point in attacking any specific views of the situation, as we're not all singular styles of gamers in this community.
There are plenty of older peeps who probably do, literally, zero video-gaming outside of Fire Pro and still arent used to the modern DLC setups.
On the flip side, you have those like me. Ive been playing MMOs for 20 years and am used to full price purchase, monthly payment for continued play, and if it closes shop I literally have nothing to show for it except (potentially) a useless installation disc.
Despite this, I am in the boat that is fine with paying depending on what's in the DLC, but think they're a tad too expensive lately. Roll down 5$, even, and it'd look much more appetizing.
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Post by Senator Phillips on Oct 18, 2019 2:44:45 GMT
No point in attacking any specific views of the situation, as we're not all singular styles of gamers in this community. There are plenty of older peeps who probably do, literally, zero video-gaming outside of Fire Pro and still arent used to the modern DLC setups. On the flip side, you have those like me. Ive been playing MMOs for 20 years and am used to full price purchase, monthly payment for continued play, and if it closes shop I literally have nothing to show for it except (potentially) a useless installation disc. Despite this, I am in the boat that is fine with paying depending on what's in the DLC, but think they're a tad too expensive lately. Roll down 5$, even, and it'd look much more appetizing. About my view exactly, other than that I never got into MMOs, heh. I have no problem whatsoever paying what they're asking, even with finances somewhat tight at the moment. To me, personally, it's very much worth the asking price. But where I do have a problem is that the relatively high entry fee for them keeps people from being able to download and use my edits, which is a shame. |
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Post by fignuts on Oct 18, 2019 3:16:12 GMT
All great questions. And my suspicion is options will be painfully limited. Remember Fire Promoter? So much they failed to consider on that one. Yeah, I think so too... This will only work for singles entrances, I guess. I think anything that has to do with team/stable things will come with the Suda51s The Vanishing DLC. Tag team entrances being a part of The Vanishing is a very likely prediction. Good point. |
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Post by Recall on Oct 18, 2019 3:20:06 GMT
Same with the Stardom DLC, £16 is personally too much but at least it’s an option for those that want it.
But please don’t bash those who are saying the price is too high as being ignorant of modern DLC prices. If you pay £16 for a DLC in any other game you tend to get a LOT as it’s usually very substantial.
The problem they’ve got is they will be splintering an already small community based upon what DLC you have or have not in regards to edits etc.
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Post by bolleat on Oct 18, 2019 3:43:21 GMT
But please don’t bash those who are saying the price is too high as being ignorant of modern DLC prices. If you pay £16 for a DLC in any other game you tend to get a LOT as it’s usually very substantial.
I agree with not bashing anyone, everyone's financial situation is different, but $20 does not mean you are getting something substantial. Fortnite, probably one of the most popular games that exists has numerous skins, literally just cosmetic outfits, where a single skin costs 2000 v-bucks. That is the equivalent of $20 as 1000 V-bucks costs $9.99. Could you imagine paying 20 bucks for a single attire of a wrestler? That is what is going on in Fortnite and tons of people pay it. That is the reality of gaming in 2019. Game studios live off the DLC model now and Spike Chunsoft is getting what they can to keep the development going.
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Post by LankyLefty17 on Oct 18, 2019 3:53:47 GMT
But please don’t bash those who are saying the price is too high as being ignorant of modern DLC prices. If you pay £16 for a DLC in any other game you tend to get a LOT as it’s usually very substantial.
I agree with not bashing anyone, everyone's financial situation is different, but $20 does not mean you are getting something substantial. Fortnite, probably one of the most popular games that exists has numerous skins, literally just cosmetic outfits, where a single skin costs 2000 v-bucks. That is the equivalent of $20 as 1000 V-bucks costs $9.99. Could you imagine paying 20 bucks for a single attire of a wrestler? That is what is going on in Fortnite and tons of people pay it. That is the reality of gaming in 2019. Game studios live off the DLC model now and Spike Chunsoft is getting what they can to keep the development going.
I think the point is just because its happening and people pay for it doesn't mean its worth the money. I actually think that's a fair conversation to have- and theoretically possible without throwing insults one way or the other (not saying you are, you are most definitely not). A publisher releases a DLC with a price, people are naturally going to react to the content and compare that against the cost of entry. They may not see value and hold off, or they may see value and purchase, or they might reluctantly purchase but think the price is too high. There isnt a right or wrong way to proceed. |
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Post by ligerbear on Oct 18, 2019 3:56:14 GMT
I cannot wrap my head around people complaining about the price here. It's twenty fucking dollars. That's literally the price of a sandwich and fries where I live. Twenty dollars to support a tiny game development team who is giving us content for a game you've literally spent hundreds if not thousands of hours playing. A team that is clearly strapped for cash, that apparently lost money in the development of the game in the first place, and is still trying hard to actually listen to the fans and provide more and more content for a SUPER niche and tiny community of gamers. This isn't like EA or Activision. How entitled can you be? Moreover, if $20 is really going to make or break you, find a new job or go back to school or something. It's honestly ridiculous to complain about this in 2019 when you have the biggest Triple A studios nickel-and-diming for every single purchase. Think about how much enjoyment you've gotten out of Fire Pro, and then realize there's some team of guys in Japan slaving away over this to make you all enjoy the game. It's not like they are some high-rolling millionaires either. I don't even consider myself a capitalist, but I have absolutely no problem paying a small business for creating content I genuinely enjoy and engage in. I will 100% support them as it is a direct and transactional relationship, literally the entire basis of a capitalist structure. Stop complaining. For a second I thought this thread was going to avoid unneeded confrontation. Glad we're nothing if not predictable.
20 bucks is, in the larger scheme of things, not that much money. But it is pretty pricey for a DLC- especially one thats as niche as this one is. Its weird to me to not see that, or understand people to be annoyed when they charge for features that were originally talked about being delivered in EA. You think its worth it- awesome. But getting pissed at people that see it as steep and taking shots at them is not really productive and just asking for a fight.
I'll likely buy the DLC, but I can totally understand people that might avoid it, or wait for it to come down in price.
The price is steep so i get if people dont want to buy it. However ive come to realize its steep exactly BECAUSE it is niche. Its not a popular game and the dlc is purely dependent on the small fanbase paying a higher price for it. I think its similar to those simulator games with dlc thats over 100 bucks. |
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Post by Recall on Oct 18, 2019 4:08:43 GMT
Fortnite is a free to play live service game relying on micro-transactions and multiple season passes.
Fire Pro is not.
Spend what you want.
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Post by jd on Oct 18, 2019 5:03:09 GMT
This... this is the rub. At this point in my life I am more of a "part time" Fire Pro player which I guess in the view of some would make my opinion or concerns slightly less important, and I'm sure this has likely come up in previous DLC discussions I skipped over, but at this point I feel like I have in a way been locked out of dealing with the workshop any longer unless I go buy a bunch of DLC (it is usable but a huge pain in the behind). From that perspective I am basically losing functionality from a game I purchased if I don't keep up with all the DLC and as someone who no longer watches entrances if this instead becomes a "you can no longer use even more workshop edits unless you pay us another $20, but we'll toss in a few arenas" DLC that... kinda sucks, for me at least. So yeah, I'm the jerk that at this point would be fine with them actually just finishing up work on the game if it made workshop stuff less of a headache. |
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Post by Spunk on Oct 18, 2019 6:13:49 GMT
Capitalism makes monsters of us all.
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Post by Love Wilcox on Oct 18, 2019 6:30:14 GMT
I’ll buy it because I know it’s going towards continued support from the devs. More money for them means more updates, free moves and potentially more dlc down the line.
Yeah the price seems steep on the surface but spread over several years it really isn’t a lot in the long run. I’ll like be playing World for the next ten years so it really is a no-brainer for me. That isn’t the case for everyone so I can see why they aren’t as content as me but that’s totally fine too.
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