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Post by IamAres on Oct 17, 2019 20:06:39 GMT
Yeah, this looks interesting. Yeah, it costs 20 bucks. I'll probably still be using it in ten years, too - unlike just about any other DLC, or really anything that you're likely to buy for that price nowadays.
From what I can make out of the broken-up menu that they show in the promo pic, it looks like we can set their wait time and walk speed, looks like about 4 taunts, and maybe set where in the ring/area they go to do those taunts (which is implied anyway from brotherman taunting on the top rope). That's pretty straightforward functionality, but some I could get a lot of mileage out of.
I'm interested in how the entrance attires would work...I've heard people say that they've heard it takes up one full attire slot, but I'm hoping they do it so we get one PER attire slot. We'll have to wait and see, I imagine.
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Post by LankyLefty17 on Oct 17, 2019 20:12:31 GMT
But... this isnt a labor of love. They're charging for it.
I do agree that I love this game and have gotten more than my money's worth out of it- but when you charge for something, people are allowed to gauge whether its worth it or not. You think it is, awesome. Others don't, which is totally cool. What's dumb is railing on others who may see the price not match the content being delivered- its a completely fair criticism. Those people can also just not buy it, but I hate the idea that we should just shut up and feel grateful for whatever they put out. We're entitled to hold the developers accountable as long as they keep asking for money.
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Post by heelsinc on Oct 17, 2019 20:23:58 GMT
I'm more excited for this over any of the past dlc. Hoping the entrance atties can work over the 4 current attires so they don't take up a slot otherwise that would let a lot of wind out of my sails.
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Post by Dakota on Oct 17, 2019 20:29:49 GMT
Matsumoto has already said in a tweet that you can assign 1 of the 4 attires an edit has as its entrance attire.
So yes, you'll have to sacrifice one slot.
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Post by bolleat on Oct 17, 2019 20:50:28 GMT
Matsumoto has already said in a tweet that you can assign 1 of the 4 attires an edit has as its entrance attire. So yes, you'll have to sacrifice one slot. This is perfectly reasonable and to expect otherwise is pretty unreasonable given what this game is. I applaud the devs as their support for this game is amazing. 2 years and still going. I have sunk so much money into DLC for games that are done in 6 months let alone a year. |
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Post by rollinsphan on Oct 17, 2019 21:24:11 GMT
The amount of content that FPW has now is ridiculous and this new DLC just adds more to it. Anyone quibbling about the price of DLC for this amazing game that I thought we'd never see makes me shake my head.
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Post by Zealot on Oct 17, 2019 21:38:13 GMT
Another DLC, another 10 pages of whether the price is too high... NEWS FLASH: Games and DLC cost money. Wow! I mean we could pay $20 every few months for additional content that is being added to a game and has sustained value over 2 years or spend $150 on the latest glitchy WWE gaming content that will be irrelevant after Wrestlemania where the cycle begins again. The choice seems obvious. At least to me it does. |
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Post by invader3k on Oct 17, 2019 22:19:06 GMT
A fair point is looking at DLC in other games. There are some games like Apex Legends or Fortnite where a premium character skin alone is $20, or close to it...and yes, tons of people shell out for those.
I just hope the three new arenas are different enough from what we already have. An outdoor venue would be awesome.
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Post by view619 on Oct 17, 2019 22:46:00 GMT
I'll probably buy it... but... that $20 price tag is a tad much for what's being included, to be honest. Unless there's a lot more being added in this DLC than I can easily see. Still, with the entrance mod someone else made being less easily accessible (and maybe not working with newer builds of the game - confirm/deny?), this catches my eye. Especially if entrance attire is separate from the main attire(s). The price tag, though... 😬 Last I remember, the Entrance mod didn't work with specific aspects of the ModPack (anything related to the Entrance Attires, I think). Otherwise, it should still work. Not interested in this DLC, won't buy it. |
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Post by spencer24 on Oct 17, 2019 22:50:24 GMT
Wow...there are so many posts I wish I could give a thumbs down in here!
People who don't like the price don't HAVE to buy it. Upset that you get locked out of some aspects of the game if you don't buy it? Then it sounds like you should buy it, but nobody is forcing you. You have all of the content you paid for, don't act like you are owed more.
Do I like the $20 price tag? Not at all. Will I buy it? Absolutely. Especially if it enhances my experience. As others have said, I will likely play this game for years to come. Most modern games become outdated within a year or less.
I had no use for Fire Promoter so I didn't buy it. But I love that it was available for those who wanted it. Not everything is about me. It seems today that fact is lost on lots of people...
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Post by view619 on Oct 17, 2019 23:30:28 GMT
Matsumoto has already said in a tweet that you can assign 1 of the 4 attires an edit has as its entrance attire. So yes, you'll have to sacrifice one slot. This is perfectly reasonable and to expect otherwise is pretty unreasonable given what this game is. I applaud the devs as their support for this game is amazing. 2 years and still going. I have sunk so much money into DLC for games that are done in 6 months let alone a year. It's not really unreasonable to expect an entrance slot per attire, IMO. It wouldn't take much work to implement, outside of figuring out how to modify the Appearance Edit UI without adding additional clutter; something like a button to flip between entrance and in-ring. And besides whatever is going on in the code, the DLC is focused on entrance crafting; having that as fleshed out as possible (for attire options) would be the ideal. They just chose to require the use of a slot for the entrance attire (apparently), which is fine. As long as it facilitates entrance attires on some level, it's a win. |
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Post by fignuts on Oct 18, 2019 0:09:24 GMT
So wait. One slot is the entrance attire. How is that going to work with three other different attires?
Also, let’s be fucking better about this you guys. You can be okay with the pricing, or you can be upset. You can even debate with other people on why you think the pricing is fine or not. But as soon as you start telling other people how they should feel about it, you’re being obnoxious. Quit it.
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Post by aroo on Oct 18, 2019 0:13:15 GMT
I imagine you can just designate a slot (say, slot 4, which is what a lot of edit makers use as their entrance/casual/whatever attire) as the entrance attire? i don't know if it's still selectable for matches, though i imagine so unless there's "entrance only parts" like what 2k has.
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Post by Nth on Oct 18, 2019 0:20:31 GMT
For a second I thought this thread was going to avoid unneeded confrontation. Glad we're nothing if not predictable. 20 bucks is, in the larger scheme of things, not that much money. But it is pretty pricey for a DLC- especially one thats as niche as this one is. Its weird to me to not see that, or understand people to be annoyed when they charge for features that were originally talked about being delivered in EA. You think its worth it- awesome. But getting pissed at people that see it as steep and taking shots at them is not really productive and just asking for a fight. I'll likely buy the DLC, but I can totally understand people that might avoid it, or wait for it to come down in price.
It just reeks of entitlement and a complete misunderstanding of how the gaming industry works. There are people on the other end of this that are basically working on this as a labor of love. We owe it to them for keeping this game alive in the first place. 9/10 replies to Matsumoto's tweet are "WTF WHY ISN'T THIS IN SEASON PASS" or "OMG $20 WTF". It should be embarrassing for us as a community that that is our immediate reply to getting more content. We're lucky this game even exists, let alone the fact that it's being updated with DLC and patches semi-regularly. I understand that people have some weird scale where they are judging if/when a DLC stacks up to the price they see, but when you take everything into context, complaining about the price here is just flat out dumb. I'm actually glad Matsumoto isn't an English speaker. He has nothing to do with the pricing, but he sure as shit ends up taking the blame for it on twitter. How completely demoralizing it must be to bring out new game content only to get dog piled and shit on over the one aspect of it you have nothing to do with. The one guy responsible for Fire Pro even existing today after he spent five years begging Spike Chunsoft to let him do it so some kid who only even heard of Fire Pro a month ago can try and organize a boycott on his twitter feed. |
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Post by view619 on Oct 18, 2019 0:28:51 GMT
So wait. One slot is the entrance attire. How is that going to work with three other different attires? Also, let’s be fucking better about this you guys. You can be okay with the pricing, or you can be upset. You can even debate with other people on why you think the pricing is fine or not. But as soon as you start telling other people how they should feel about it, you’re being obnoxious. Quit it. Probably an option in the editor to mark an attire slot (or none) for entrances. I don't think they would force players to use a specific slot for entrances, since people have been making edits since Early Access and that would require modifications just to conform to the new features. |
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