Moving Forward with Community Belts

Sy still does the Jar! We had a tournament late last year. =D 

FreedoM (back when they were unmasked and mainly going by FullMETAL) was also one of the very first rookies in the Jar, and I wholeheartedly support bringing the Rookie Jar back.

I think it also bears mentioning, that one of my (many) posts following Arena Rising last year was a suggestion for a regular/semi-regular Community Showcase show where the members of the Community show off their edits in the vein of the old NWA Showcase show(s) that used to show off the various territories and get people from, say Georgia, interested in people from Hollywood or Florida, so that we could all get to know them...JUST LIKE SOMETHING THAT'S NOW BEING SUGGESTED HERE ONE YEAR LATER.

The Showcase shows, if we'd managed to get them off the ground, were meant to mitigate the very problem that Soak and I think Lefty brought up in concerning "edits that people don't know and/or have a vested interest in" (I'm paraphrasing, but you get the point, right?).
The main problem, at the time, was that we didn't have nearly as many people THEN as we do NOW who not only have the actual capability of recording and uploading stuff, but the willingness to do so AT ALL (let alone, as part of Official Community stuff).





One point I'd like to make concerning having "official" C!C belts here in he first place, even in 2019 with a ton of feds actively participating in just this website/forum alone, is actually tied into the existence of the Supershows themselves: with a bunch of different feds grouping together and holding events, the inevitability of "my fed is better than your fed so my fed should have priority in whatever" rears its ugly head -- having "official" community belts (again, going back to the NWA & Territories model reference) means we don't have to argue about which fed is better, we can just have edits from those "working their way up the card" (in whatever form that may take, sim-wise, or angle-wise, etc), so to speak, and proving they're the best in the Alliance.


To further address Soak's point about Official C!C Championships resulting in building edits to win instead of putting on good matches...I legitimately have no idea how to remedy that.

When the Person Pack was founded (and as I was very soundly made aware of when I first joined it in 2007), the point of making the edits for it was (like with many people's collections of their own edits on their own feds) to put on good matches with each other rather than outright winning.
(It's one of the reasons the 200-and-under point limit exists, after all -- otherwise EVERYBODY would be making their edits have 10s in all the parameters, with the highest Skills, and the best Special Skills, and Cement logic with Flex set to 0%.)
Things like Wonderland's Dojo and K's Edit Rehab service were made to fix (or at least put a Band-Aid over) these various problems, and pretty much all of us who could availed ourselves of those services when they were super active.
Some of us (like Geese) used what we'd all learned (some of us more easily than others) over literally years of trial-and-error and tweaking and have put together guides (both in-depth and shallow) to aid the rest of us in building edits for putting on good matches as opposed to winning (and those are all available in the Guides section for easy aggregation).

I'm also 100% in support of, if we're actually keeping the C!C belts, having them go as floating titles around the Alliance (that way, we get more matches booked for those belts, as opposed to once or twice a year) like the NWA belts have done, if the Community agrees to that.

(I'm still also gonna go to bat for the idea I pitched Brick of the DODEKAGON Championship Division being overhauled by running with the HONOO rules and roster (as opposed to the completely outdated FPCMMA alts and a completely lost ruleset) but with Gruesome matches as opposed to HONOO's native SWA matches.)

Couldnt have put it better myself. 1000% agree.

Can and will vouch for all of that.  "Dojo'ing" as a verb was not coined by Wonderland.  Nor was it even meant by the majority of other users to be compulsory in any way.  Frankly, I never even liked saying an edit needed to be dojo'd as that implied a critique that in many cases was completely unsolicited and subjective. However, I was always one of the first to suggest the Dojo when a handler specifically said they were having some issues getting their edit to be the way they want.  I also made sure to let people know that Wondy did this for fun and not as some kind of pay service.  I didn't like when people started pressuring him or other streamers if they just wanted to free sim without getting into Editing 101. '

In any case, the Dojo was never a compulsory part of FPCPP and Wondy was always very chill in offering his help.  





You're also the only person that speaks from you as well.

Goocifer was already there first 😈

I just wanted to let you know you made me do this. Cross not pictured.