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Post by Phil Parent on Feb 11, 2019 6:35:26 GMT
The Smith Special befuddles me.
I remember there was a rumor that new fictional promotions and wrestlers would come with Fire Promoter. Maybe this is a hint that Morio Smith could be in there? Which also means that he survived his suicide attempt, I guess.
The lack of a biography field for wrestlers really hurts the possibilities of using the old Fire Pro defaults because, along with recolorings and changes in DOB/Country, that is where you can make the old defaults truly different from their real world inspiration.
Slender really looks like Flair, yeah. But if it would say in his biography that he is a cold-blooded psychopath who MURDERED PEOPLE, then who would look at that and think Ric Flair?
I'd love to have the Blazing Tornado crew with their moves.
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Post by sofia on Feb 11, 2019 8:01:04 GMT
It could be that the default edit (John Smith) is actually the descendant of the greatest champion, too.
I mean, I don't know if he ever actually did anything with Saeba's sister, but...
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Post by DM_PSX on Feb 11, 2019 10:26:25 GMT
I was going to run my Kawaii PPV tonight, but this bug is messing up half my wrestlers. Kyupiddo will need a gimmick change, and can debut next month I guess. :D
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Post by Zealot on Feb 11, 2019 12:04:26 GMT
All this intrigue about the Smith Special makes me want to play Morio's story even more despite the end spoiler.
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Post by jetlag on Feb 11, 2019 17:52:58 GMT
I was testing PANCRASE edits so I didn't notice the new bug. However it is def. noticable once you use edits who rely on whips. That'll teach ya psychology, kids! Stop running the ropes!!
My Fire Pro activity has been kind of dormant the last couple weeks. It really has a lot to do with just waiting for the next update... waiting till the bug of the month is fixed... waiting to see what new moves, parts or logic options they might add before you have to update a 100 guys with the new stuff. With FPR you just accepted all the shortcomings, so it's understandable people are getting irritated now. I am still building my roster, still haven't finished my 90s roster, barely begun with the 2000s really let alone worked out all my original edits (which I've basically thrown in a pile now waiting to decide what to do with every single one of them which is dependent on the others...). Playing Fire Pro has almost become a Work in Progress both for the developers and players.
Love the Smith Special, hope the Bulnoi Stomper and hayate express are next. Aswell as a hat like the Undertaker guy from SFPWXP had.
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Post by sofia on Feb 11, 2019 20:32:25 GMT
All this intrigue about the Smith Special makes me want to play Morio's story even more despite the end spoiler. It's neat, though my Japanese isn't amazing enough to play the whole thing. It largely follows the structure of Victory Road in other games, except with more personality given to the roster. But, here's how I understand it: Morio Smith (loosely named after Morrisey Smith) is a young man with something eating at his mind, some missing goal to his life. To silence that voice in his heart, he enters Ittetsu Wakamoto's dojo to become a wrestler, and partners up with a senior wrestler from overseas (Dick Road, The Underground, or The Spike). As it turns out, he's quite good at wrestling, and as such he begins touring Japan, essentially as an all-conquering wrestler, defeating the stars of VJP, OJP, or UWH along the way. Wakamoto encourages him to go freelance and challenge Japanese martial artists to different-style fights, which is how he enters a tournament and meets Akira Saeba (who beats him). Saeba takes Smith under his wing since Ittetsu had gone missing - he had apparently come out of retirement and entered the world of "underground wrestling."
He and Saeba's sister, a fashion model named Reiko, connect with one another, and he confides in her the effects that wrestling is having on his mind. The two begin developing feelings for one another. He ends up being mentored by Karlos Krauser, the man who taught Victory Musashi in the ways of pro wrestling; a master who considers all his trainees to be his family. Through his training, he learns new techniques, and goes overseas to challenge fighters in the Gruesome Fighting cage, even defeating the all-conquering Nixon Stacie, the undefeated master of Vale Tudo.
He wrestles in America and, together with his sparring partner, enters a tag team tournament in which they prevail... However, they are challenged by Mighty Boy Smith, who encourages his long-time parter Dynamic Kid - another English wrestler who had retired due to his body quickly breaking down from the stress of wrestling - to team up with him to win the belts. Smith defeats their team and, inexplicably, Dynamic Kid dies in the ring. After going overseas, he and Reiko stop keeping in touch with one another and Reiko and Akira's parents encourage her to try and arrange a marriage to him.
While in America, Smith falls into the underworld of wrestling, the same place where his teacher Ittetsu wandered to after his passion for fighting was reignited by his match with Smith in his dojo. There, his tag partner dies in the ring and he comes face to face with Dick Slender, the king of pro wrestling's underworld, who laughs maniacally at Smith's misfortune and tells him that this is just the harsh reality of a real fight. A monstrous fighter who takes the lives of anyone who challenges him - even going so far as to slaughter dojo trainees - he comments that he personally killed his "Jap" teacher and, blinded by anger, Smith challenges him to a fight for Slender's world championship - one that, for Smith, will literally be a life or death battle. Defeating Slender and avenging his fallen comrades does little to fill Smith's heart, who has been exposed to death in the ring; even knowing of Reiko's true feelings for him. And sometime later, he commits suicide in a hotel room - a story decision that Suda51 said was influenced by the children of Fritz Von Erich (but especially Kerry Von Erich, who had shot himself a year earlier) and Nirvana lead singer Kurt Cobain. It's a strangely dark ending that reflects Suda's own mindset - he explained that he hated how overly bright and optimistic wrestling had become in the 90s.
Though not described in the game, Suda mentioned that Reiko had Smith's child sometime after his suicide.
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Post by IamAres on Feb 12, 2019 6:21:43 GMT
That story gets even more fucked up if you read it with the wrestlers' "real" names in mind.
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Post by sofia on Feb 12, 2019 9:57:06 GMT
That story gets even more fucked up if you read it with the wrestlers' "real" names in mind. What, you don't remember the time that Ric Flair beat Harley Race to death at Starrcade?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 10:10:06 GMT
Why is everyone jumping ship to AEW.
Like Omega I can understand cause his mate cody Rhodes / Stardust helps run the company or something.
But if AJ Styles goes it will be a relief finally I want Styles to leave.
But there is talk Randy Orton, Dean Ambrose and Seth Rollins like wtf?
Is there free booty or something at AEW??
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Post by Dawnbr3ak3r on Feb 12, 2019 10:30:19 GMT
Why is everyone jumping ship to AEW. Like Omega I can understand cause his mate cody Rhodes / Stardust helps run the company or something. But if AJ Styles goes it will be a relief finally I want Styles to leave. But there is talk Randy Orton, Dean Ambrose and Seth Rollins like wtf? Is there free booty or something at AEW?? Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... I'm not sure what any of that has to do with the patch, or Fire Pro at all, but aight.
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Post by Recall on Feb 12, 2019 11:24:41 GMT
Has the latest patch altered other logic beyond the Irish whip stuff? Edits that were very passive in the early match stages seem to dialled up to 11 now and seem way more aggressive...
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Post by amsterDAN on Feb 12, 2019 12:32:18 GMT
Why is everyone jumping ship to AEW. Like Omega I can understand cause his mate cody Rhodes / Stardust helps run the company or something. But if AJ Styles goes it will be a relief finally I want Styles to leave. But there is talk Randy Orton, Dean Ambrose and Seth Rollins like wtf? Is there free booty or something at AEW?? Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... I'm not sure what any of that has to do with the patch, or Fire Pro at all, but aight. Oh come on dude. Who likes free booty more than anyone? Pirates. What do pirates wear over one eye? A patch. What game just got a new patch? Fire Pro. Connect the dots, man.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 13:11:40 GMT
hahaha.
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Post by Dawnbr3ak3r on Feb 12, 2019 14:24:44 GMT
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... I'm not sure what any of that has to do with the patch, or Fire Pro at all, but aight. Oh come on dude. Who likes free booty more than anyone? Pirates. What do pirates wear over one eye? A patch. What game just got a new patch? Fire Pro. Connect the dots, man.
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Post by Spunk on Feb 12, 2019 20:35:05 GMT
Has the latest patch altered other logic beyond the Irish whip stuff? Edits that were very passive in the early match stages seem to dialled up to 11 now and seem way more aggressive... Maybe? Matches feel a bit quicker, but I've been dabbling around with some of my more powerful edits of late, not the usual ones.
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