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Post by xphen0m on Jan 25, 2019 16:05:57 GMT
Good Lord, the New Japan World app sucks. Great content, but the way the app(s) work have always been horrendous. The horrible user experience just kills any interest in the content they provide, no matter how great it may be. The Android app isn't even an app, it just links you to the website. And lately, I can't even watch anything on the Fire TV app. It just freezes at the beginning of whatever video.
If NJPW is serious about expanding globally, this is most definitely something that needs to be addressed pronto, especially considering that they tout their service heavily.
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Post by DM_PSX on Jan 25, 2019 18:21:47 GMT
Good Lord, the New Japan World app sucks. Great content, but the way the app(s) work have always been horrendous. The horrible user experience just kills any interest in the content they provide, no matter how great it may be. The Android app isn't even an app, it just links you to the website. And lately, I can't even watch anything on the Fire TV app. It just freezes at the beginning of whatever video. If NJPW is serious about expanding globally, this is most definitely something that needs to be addressed pronto, especially considering that they tout their service heavily. LOL Android. Android is a nightmare to program for, and it's a dead platform for serious app development. They made the fatal flaw of opening up the OS for anyone to tinker with, and every single device that comes with Android has a slightly different version, with it's own slightly different quirks and bugs. Each of those versions has it's own series of patches further diluting the OS. You can't do the simplest things in android without it being broken somewhere, on some random device(s). There's no way to find out why or how it's broken other than buying those devices, if they are even available, and tinkering with it until it works, and making a device specific workaround in your code. So just linking to the website is the smartest thing for them to do anymore. The service seems to be very cumbersome on the desktop too. All those Japanese streaming services are.
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Post by Kris on Jan 28, 2019 20:29:29 GMT
Never had a problem with it. The only annoyance I had was that I couldn't rewind a live stream so I either watch it live from the beginning or wait until the show finishes before I view. WWE network sometimes goes wrong when doing this too though.
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Post by unimportantguy on Feb 1, 2019 0:10:59 GMT
I am not a typical case, I think, but I use the Steam Link app on my TV to stream NJPW World content from my PC. I can't say I've ever had a particularly strong desire to watch away from home.
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Post by theskullman on Feb 3, 2019 18:05:49 GMT
As long as I'm not on Android and instead on my PC, NJPW World works just fine. My advice? If you're going to use that app, please make sure you have an iPhone instead, otherwise you'll be charged on the Android and not universally.
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Post by unimportantguy on Feb 7, 2019 2:37:50 GMT
As long as I'm not on Android and instead on my PC, NJPW World works just fine. My advice? If you're going to use that app, please make sure you have an iPhone instead, otherwise you'll be charged on the Android and not universally. I have no idea what this means.
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Post by Kris on Feb 7, 2019 5:47:04 GMT
Me neither I always run it from my Android phone and it works fine. No problems with the charge either whether you mean the fee or the battery.
What might be different for me is that I always cast to Chromecast on my TV. I've noticed that after a while the NJPW streamer will stop working but the stream still runs and I can use the Home app pause, rewind or forward if need be.
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Post by Spunk on Feb 10, 2019 9:02:23 GMT
Good Lord, the New Japan World app sucks. Great content, but the way the app(s) work have always been horrendous. The horrible user experience just kills any interest in the content they provide, no matter how great it may be. The Android app isn't even an app, it just links you to the website. And lately, I can't even watch anything on the Fire TV app. It just freezes at the beginning of whatever video. If NJPW is serious about expanding globally, this is most definitely something that needs to be addressed pronto, especially considering that they tout their service heavily. LOL Android. Android is a nightmare to program for, and it's a dead platform for serious app development. They made the fatal flaw of opening up the OS for anyone to tinker with, and every single device that comes with Android has a slightly different version, with it's own slightly different quirks and bugs. Each of those versions has it's own series of patches further diluting the OS. You can't do the simplest things in android without it being broken somewhere, on some random device(s). There's no way to find out why or how it's broken other than buying those devices, if they are even available, and tinkering with it until it works, and making a device specific workaround in your code. So just linking to the website is the smartest thing for them to do anymore. The service seems to be very cumbersome on the desktop too. All those Japanese streaming services are. I'm mildly curious about the 'dead platform for serious app development' thing considering the marketshare. The app always seems to work fine, anyway. It's not really "just a link to the website," either. You use the website to call up what you want to watch and the app is essentially just a video player. It works fine, better than just playing a video off of a webpage, at least. But yes, all of the Japanese streaming services are in some way or another an absolute mess. They just overhauled BJW Core so now it... has a way worse UI!?!?
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Post by DM_PSX on Feb 10, 2019 10:51:06 GMT
I'm mildly curious about the 'dead platform for serious app development' thing considering the marketshare. It wasn't about market share. On market share alone, they should be the #1 platform. Google opened the OS up and let everyone muck around with it. Every different phone and tablet model is running it's own broken to hell custom build of the OS, with their own sets of custom updates. It's almost impossible to keep up with the never ending mess. Lots of bigger companies with the major apps can somewhat keep on top of it, but most can't. It's why there are no major android apps of any consequence anymore, and why a lot of apps are stripped down versions of of iPhone/iPad ones. We only have major apps like instagram, Netflix and etc. These are major companies that can afford to keep up with this, and they have to. Otherwise, it's a graveyard. The point of an operating system is to be a stable base to build applications on top of. But they sabotaged that trying to get it out on as many platforms as possible. The solutions to this are either really poor, or non existence. Basically you'd build completely different versions of the app, and the Google Play store would show you the relevant version based on your device. Fast forward to now when we have 5000+ devices out there all with their own broken version of the OS with undocumented changes and bugs. Even 'android version x' means nothing. Is it Android X as released by Google? Is it Android X as released by say LG or Samsung, with their own changes that barely resemble each other anymore? Is it Android Y with a company's own implementation of X's features cobbled in and only marketed as Android X because no one says they can't? No one can buy 5000+ phones and tablets and troubleshoot through all these undocumented issues and release differing versions of their app, as well as maintain them all across new firmware releases and etc. A lot of guys just program towards whatever the most dominant devices are, usually Samsung, and everyone else is in "No Man's Land". It was the same with the older desktop Intel GPU chips. They were installed in almost every PC worldwide. But they were all broken to hell, had poor drivers, didn't implement standards properly with their own drivers often outright lying about supported extensions. So graphical programs were often built specifically for the nVidia and AMD GPU cards, and the intel chips were mostly ignored. How do you support these cards when the most expensive versions of them are still several orders of magnitude slower then the budget versions of nVidia/ATI, and when the extension function calls you have to link to at runtime (with addresses provided by the driver) not actually there causing you to read and write memory to random addresses for nothing, and getting at best a crash and at worst random bugs you can't ever fix? You don't. So back to the original point. Making the App just redirect you to the website through chrome becomes the only sane option. Making a small app that just lets you search and play video streams off their service should be very easy and straightforward. But no one should be expected to fork off 5000+ different version of their program and do continued support and maintenance of them. Chrome works.
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Post by Spunk on Feb 11, 2019 1:23:49 GMT
Yeah, not saying the market share has anything to do with building apps or the fragmentation issues that have been around for ages, just how a very popular phone OS isn't used for serious development.
Most apps tend to be relatively stable considering the fragmentation, I think most of the issues are hardware and manufacturers like Samsung that push out their own, modified versions of the OS delaying releases for a long time.
Apple technically fragments their base as well now with the different versions of the iPhone, but their system is still very closed and they've never relented control, while Android was originally envisioned as an open platform and people ran with it.
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Post by DM_PSX on Feb 11, 2019 2:40:29 GMT
Apple technically fragments their base as well now with the different versions of the iPhone, but their system is still very closed and they've never relented control, while Android was originally envisioned as an open platform and people ran with it. There's no fragmentation there. Just new devices. They all run the same software built on the exact same SDKs. The only difference is better specs every so often. If you want to update your app to take advantage of new specs, so be it. But everything works the same all across the board. Anything you code will run the same on all devices. The problem with android isn't the 5000+ devices. It's that they all went into business for themselves with compiling their own unique Android versions that are all broken in their own unique ways. Google tried to reign in the Android fragmentation a few versions ago, but it was a bit too late. You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. And I think any further efforts to reign it in would probably lead to Android being dumped. You can't reliably build any sophisticated software in that environment. You need ONE rock solid OS, with ONE rock solid set of APIs and SDKs.
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Post by Recall on Feb 11, 2019 14:18:48 GMT
I still hate that NJPW world has video files with insanely low bit rate so you get artefacts all over the place. Yet the actual footage aired on Japanese TV is insanely high def, and looks incredible.
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