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Post by mauzer33 on Jan 17, 2019 16:29:35 GMT
So was fire pro z just a port of fire pro d to the ps2? I don't ever see people talk about it much. Was it terrible?
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Post by Nth on Jan 17, 2019 18:58:31 GMT
No it was an entirely new game. A lot of people called it Fire Pro D.5 as the mechanics were only slightly updated, but it brought in the layering system to the edit mode. Here's a nice review on it
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Post by jetlag on Jan 18, 2019 11:52:35 GMT
Fire Pro Z was in some ways "uglier" than FPR or FPD, as it had the weird camera angle that made the sprites look small, bad sound effects, Arena entrances and crowds looking horrible etc. With playing import games being expensive, PS2 emulation still being in it's infancy and FPR coming out only 2 years later with a bigger roster there was no real reason to bother with Z besides the story mode.
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Post by mauzer33 on Jan 18, 2019 19:24:38 GMT
Thank you both for the info. So did it have the same wwf/wcw rosters as D?
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Post by jetlag on Jan 19, 2019 10:26:40 GMT
Thank you both for the info. So did it have the same wwf/wcw rosters as D?
No, it doesn't have the WWF guys. But it does have Goldberg, Randy Savage, Jimmy Yang & Chyna who are missing from FPR.
For some reason the FPZ roster is difficult to find online, so here it is:
NJPW
Tatsumi Fujinami
Junji Hirata
Kengo Kimura
Takashi Iizuka
Manabu Nakanishi
Yuji Nagata
Osamu Nishimura
Yutaka Yoshie
Hiroshi Tanahashi
Super J
Jushin Thunder Lyger
El Samurai
Minoru Tanaka
Masayuki Naruse
Masahi Kakihara
Shiny Makabe
Masahiro Chono
Hiroyoshi Tenzan
Tatsutoshi Goto
Michiyoshi Ohara
Hiro Saito
Giant Silva
Giant Singh
Scott Norton
AKIRA
Koji Kanemoto
Jado
Gedo
Kazuo Yamazaki
Animal Hamaguchi
Osamu Kido
Kotetsu Yamamoto Tiger Mask
Dynamite Kid
Kuniaki Kobayashi
Black Tiger
Mitsuya Nagai
Mike Barton
Jim Steele
Tadao Yasuda
Tiger Mask IV
Kantaro Hoshino
Shinsuke Nakamura
Ryushi Yanagisawa
Blue Wolf
AJPW
Genichiro Tenryu
Keiji Mutoh
Great Muta
Toshiaki Kawada
Hiroshi Hase
Satoshi Kojima
Nobutaka Araya
Tomoaki Honma
Steve Williams
Taiyo Kea
Johnny Smith
Masanabu Fuchi
Kendo Ka Shin
Kaz Hayashi
Giant Baba
Jumbo Tsuruta
Dory Funk Jr.
Stan Hansen
Bruiser Brody
Terry Gordy
Gary Albright
Johnny Ace
Abdullah the Butcher
Arashi
Kazushi Miyamoto
Mike Awesome
Jimmy Yang
NOAH
Mitsuharu Misawa
Kenta Kobashi
Akira Taue
Tamon Honda
Akitoshi Saito
Jun Izumida
Masao Inoue
Daisuke Ikeda
Kentaro Shiga
Takeshi Rikioh
Takeshi Morishima
Mohammed Yone
Vader
Yoshinari Ogawa
Takuma Sano
Tsuyoshi Kikuchi
Satoru Asako
Yoshinobu Kanemaru
Naomichi Marufuji
Scorpio
Takashi Suguira
Makoto Hashi
KENTA
Zero-One
Shinya Hashimoto
Shinjiro Ohtani
Masato Tanaka
Tatsuhito Takaiwa
Naohiro Hoshikawa
Tom Howard
Matt Ghaffari
The Predator
Steve Corino
Kazuhiko Ogasawara
Low-Ki
UFO
Naoya Ogawa
Kazuyuki Fujita
Kazunari Murakami Antonio Inoki
Takada Dojo
Nobuhiko Takada
Kazushi Sakuraba
Norihisa Yamamoto
WEW
Kodo Fuyuki
Testsuhiro Kuroda
Kintaro Kanemura
Michinoku Pro
Jinsei Shinzaki
The Great Sasuke
Gran Hamada
Ricky Fuji
Dick Togo
Curry Man
Toryumon
Magnum TOKYO
CIMA
Masaaki Mochizuki
SUWA
Don Fuji
Dragon Kid
Yasushi Kanda
Susumu Yokosuka
Ultimo Dragon
Big Japan
Shadow WX
Ryuji Yamakawa
Mens Teioh
Big Japan
Super Delfin
Takehiro Murahama
Gamma
Kaientai Dojo
TAKA Michinoku
Minoru Fujita
Freelance
Takao Omori
The Great Kabuki
Yoshiaki Fujiwara
Atsushi Onita
Yoshihiro Takayama
Hayabusa
Tarzan Goto
Mr. Pogo
Yoji Anjoh
Mitsuhiro Matsunaga
Mr. Gannosuke
HISAKATSU
Yuki Ishikawa
Alexander Otsuka
Sanshiro Takagi
GOEMON
Mammoth Sasaki
Onryo
Ikuto Hidaka
Masao Orihara
Gran Naniwa
Andre The Giant
Tiger Jeet Singh
Bill Goldberg
Davey Boy Smith
Sabu
Joanie Laurer
Lucha
Dos Caras Jr.
El Hijo del Santo
Negro Casas
Dr. Wagner Jr.
Black Tiger III
Dos Caras
Mil Mascaras
Pancrase
Yuki Kondo
Yuko Takahashi
Sanae Kikuta
Ikuhisa Minowa
Masakatsu Funaki
Minoru Suzuki
America
Terry Funk
Road Warrior Hawk
Road Warrior Animal
Randy Savage
Bret Hart
Rick Steiner
Scott Hall
Sting
Sid Vicious
Jeff Jarrett
Bam Bam Bigelow
Shooters
Masaaki Satake
Kiyoshi Tamura
Tsuyoshi Kosaka
Hiromitsu Kanehara
Rumina Sato
Akira Maeda
Rickson Gracie
Royce Gracie
Antonio Rodrigo Nogeuira
Mark Coleman
Semmy Schilt
Igor Vovchanchyn
Gary Goodridge
Mark Kerr
Ken Shamrock
Wanderlei Silva
Bitsadze Tariel
Volk Han
Hans Nyman
Peter Aerts
Ernesto Hoost
Mike Bernardo
Mirko Filipovic
Jerome LeBanner
Roland Bock
Alexander Karelin
Andy Hug
Enson Inoue
Wataru Sakata
Hidehiko Yoshida
Bob Sapp
Women
Lioness Asuka
Chigusa Nagayo
Kyoko Inoue
Shinobu Kandori
Aja Kong
Dynamite Kansai
Yumiko Hotta
Manami Toyota
Akira Hokuto
Takako Inoue
Ayako Hamada
Bull Nakano
Momoe Nakanishi
Legends
Karl Gotch
Lou Thesz
Rikidozan
World Japan
Riki Chosyu
Kensuke Sasaki
Shiro Koshinaka
Kenzo Suzuki
Don Frye
Yoshiaki Yatsu
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Post by mauzer33 on Jan 20, 2019 14:44:38 GMT
Cool, thanks for the list. I was always curious about the roster.
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Post by ligerbear on Feb 13, 2019 2:48:18 GMT
Z sucked. Graphics were squished and ugly as previously mentioned. It was supposed to be the last game in the series even based on the cover of the game(a message saying something like goodbye fire pro/farewell fire pro.) Spike thought the release sucked and thats why fpr came out a short while later to help rectify much of fpz's short comings.
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Post by sofia on Feb 22, 2019 1:26:49 GMT
It was thought to be the last game, but it was the latest in a line in games billed as the final title in the series... Before that, there was Final Bout on Super Famicom, and Final Fire Prowrestling on GBA, which came out like a year before Z!
I don't think nearly as poorly of it as others. The loss of American wrestlers kind of sucked, but it was still a refinement of FPD in gameplay; adding ground reversals to D made the gameplay a bit deeper since knocking the opponent down was no longer a 100% free followup.
The sprites were annoyingly squished tho, I'll agree.
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Post by OrochiGeese on Feb 22, 2019 6:39:05 GMT
Z was the only console Fire Pro game that I haven't owned since picking up the series with D. I didn't have a PS2 at that point and the reason I eventually got a PS2 was because of FPR, LOL. So I never found the need to get Z too.
The one thing I really wish that FPR and FPW would have got from Z was the outdoor arena. I would have LOVED that for e-fed purposes, especially if we could get "day" and "night" versions of it.
Also, wasn't Z the first FP game to have appearance layers?
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Post by mrradcialdude69832 on Jun 21, 2020 17:19:02 GMT
I gotta be honest, I think Fire Pro Z is such a great game I mean, the rosters are different and better in Fire Pro Z! We got new wrestlers such as Hiroshi Tanahashi, Kenzo Suzuki, Blue Wolf, Naomichi Marufuji, Kotaro Suzuki and many more. There's some western wrestlers such as Samoa Joe, Steve Corino, and many more. Plus some wrestlers made their first appearance in Fire Pro Z such as Shinsuke Nakamura and Lowki. There are new promotions including ZERO-ONE, U.F.O., WEW, and World Japan. Also there's an awesome story mode where you can either play as 4 legendary wrestlers such as Mitsuharu Misawa, Keiji Mutoh, Shinya Hashimoto, or Masahiro Chono then you can relive some of their moments in wrestling history. So I gave Fire Pro Z a 9.5/10!
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Post by pfrchaos on Aug 16, 2020 16:52:08 GMT
Z sucks, probably the only Spike Fire Pro game close to being as bad as it was the NA version of the first GBA game but at least it still had WWF guys even though they were recolored. I think there were only a small amount of wrestlers included that are not on the default roster of D or Returns.
Jimmy Yang
Kenzo Suzuki
Satoru Asako
Yasushi Kanda
That's it, right?
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Post by IamAres on Aug 17, 2020 6:07:52 GMT
Yeah, I think there were pretty few people unique to FPZ - most had either been in D shortly before or would be in R shortly after. I'd almost count Nakamura, since he was changing so much early in his career, his FPZ self was probably fairly different than FPR (although not nearly as different as he would become).
I never really played the story, so I can't vouch for it either way. It was uglier than D for some reason, though, which didn't help it much. It also came out around the same time as KOC (between 1 and 2, I believe) which really didn't do it any favors by comparison. It did have some cool new moves, but Jason Blackhart figured out how to port many of them backward into FPD, so if you were around this community at the time, you had those moves in FPD anyway.
I'm not knocking it, because I'm sure for some people it was what SFPWXP was for me - that first introduction to the series, the thing that pops into your head when you think "Fire Pro." But there are reasons it didn't do well and may not hold up as well as D and R for most folks.
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