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Post by facesoffoley on Aug 24, 2018 6:25:31 GMT
Not sure if this thread was still around. (if it is feel free to ignore this) But considering all the drama surrounding the new game I thought maybe we could all take a second to remember what exactly all brought us here. I also wanted to give newer members a chance to tell there story on how they fell in love with the franchise.
Around 2008 I was a really big fan of TNA and vastly preferred it to the WWE product. During that time they did there Global Impact crossover show with NJPW. I had only heard of NJPW but had never experienced the product before. That show introduced me to a whole new world of wrestling that I had never really seen before and I immediately became hooked. I was introduced to wrestlers like Nakanishi,and Makabe. But also reintroduced to Liger and Nagata. Names I remembered from WCW. So of course I had to know if there was a game series that included them as well. And in my research stumbled upon Fire Pro. This game was a dream. I could make practically anybody and had a whole new list of moves at my disposal. The problem was I didn't know where to find it.Then one day I'm in the Hollywood video up the street from my house and what do I see. In the used games bin is a copy of FPR. It was like fate brought us together. I couldn't believe it and purchased it that same day. When I needed help figuring things out(what is ukemi?) I stumbled across the FPC and never looked back.
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Post by harris on Aug 24, 2018 8:50:14 GMT
I am not exactly a veteran... The first game I played was Fire Pro Advance which I got in the bargain bin of a Toys R Us, however I absolutely hated it at the time and couldn't understand how to play it properly. I didn't have the internet then, and I ended up just selling it.
I had heard of the other games and in theory the idea of a 2D sprite wrestling game appealed to me but I remembered the GBA experience I had.
I got into New Japan around the same time Okada had his first reign. I knew of World and started to understand it more but wasn't quite sold on it. Once New Japan announced the collaboration however, I looked further into it. I became fascinated and a few months back I couldn't wait and decided to get the game on Steam and wait for the DLC (lol).
There's still a lot I don't understand about the game, I'm a little intimidated by the mods so I haven't used them, and I mostly play matches, though I have enjoyed simming.
In short, it was New Japan's collaboration that got me into Fire Pro
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Post by amsterDAN on Aug 24, 2018 13:38:25 GMT
Honestly, I never heard of the Fire Pro franchise until last year. I was a huge WCW fan as a kid and basically stopped watching wrestling (or rather, current wrestling) when they folded, and then I moved to Europe and was really cut off from watching wrestling for quite a while there. From late '98 until about 2003 I ran a bunch of RP e-feds with ghastly Angelfire sites, and that always stuck with me as some of the most fun I've ever had on a computer. In an attempt to scratch that itch, early last year I picked up TEW and had been fiddling around with that a bit, which I believe is what caused FPW to suddenly pop up in my Steam queue. It looked fun, the graphics were quaint enough I was sure my hunk of shite computer could handle it, and I had some extra money in my pocket so I bought it on a whim. Honestly, my first twenty minutes in training mode were so frustrating I nearly returned the game; I didn't understand the grapple timing and got bodyslammed about a hundred times in a row until I wanted to scream. But I stuck with it and now I'm approaching my thousandth hour and have never had more fun with a game.
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Post by invader3k on Aug 24, 2018 13:45:18 GMT
I first heard about Fire Pro around 1996, from reading about it on RSPW (how many of you remember Usenet???) and the like. When 6MS came out, there was a fair amount of online hype. One of the American video game magazines did a one page review of it, and praised it highly, though it erroneously said it was releasing on the Sony Playstation and not the Sega Saturn!
I didn't own a Saturn at the time, but a couple months later, bought one at Target when the system was on clearance, for about $80. Ordered 6MS the next day, along with some kind of converter/adapter thingy that plugged into the back of the system.
Happily been playing Fire Pro games ever since. I believe the only console release I've not owned since then was Fire Pro Z and the Game Boy versions.
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Post by haddes911 on Aug 24, 2018 16:52:45 GMT
Started way back when using an emulator to play SFPWXP. Made friends with a srm maker named AdamECW (Skulltrauma). We ran an old tripod for a bit with templates and srms. Made some friends from back then that I still keep in touch with to this day.
Didn’t have a Saturn, so I missed out on Six Man Scramble.
My brother imported FPG, we played that a lot. I remember saving up for a Dexdrive to share saved with that one. This is where I stopped making edits. People were better than me at it and more timely on getting stuff out.
Dreamcast came...and with that the option to burn games. My brother would pirate FPD and we played that a bunch when he wasn’t away at college. Downloadable moves were a cool thing.
With the launch of Gamebog Advance, a portable fire pro game. It rekindled my interest and I remember getting it at launch along side Mario Advance. Eventually It got a bastardized local sequel, and I played them both more then Any other game on the system.
My edit site is technically still up at fireproamerica.tripod.com last I checked.
I still regret not owning a copy of FFPW... thought Managment of The Ring would be localized. But instead we got that bastardized Ironroad thing. Oh well maybe fire promotor will make up for it all these years later.
didn’t play z.
During hurricane Katrina my apartment was looted. My PC was looted and so was my video game collection. Lost a lot of creative projects that I’ll never finish. Including an ECW GBA project that I was doing with then edit maker CyberTranz.
I’d replace my stolen PS2 with a modded chipped installed one and import Fire Pro Returns. Played it a good bit.
Would then buy the Agetec us release and eventually on the PS3 store release
When world came out... I was excited... so I’m back.
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Post by view619 on Aug 24, 2018 17:02:31 GMT
Stumbled into SFPPXX on an emulator back in the early 00's, played the hell out of that. Afterwards, learned about FPD and picked it up for the Dreamcast; good timing since I was a UFC mark at the time and gruesome fighting seemed like like the greatest thing ever.
Stumbled on PS2 Returns years later, after the community had already been working on it for a while, downloaded a lot of save packs. Skipped the PS3 re-release since I felt the PS2 version was good enough.
Then in 2017, after watching the first season of GLOW on Netflix I remembered the fun I had with Fire Pro and decided to look up some videos for nostalgia sake. First article I see is about plans to release a new game on PC in July.
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It's been an interesting ride.
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Post by Bananeninja on Aug 24, 2018 19:45:42 GMT
So back in late 2016 i discovered NJPW and was fond of LIJ, so i scrolled through the # LosIngobernablesDeJapon on twitter to see cool photos of them and fans' creations, and i stumbled across a gif of a weird , retro-looking wrestling game with LIJ wrestlers in it, so i tried to translate the other # and discovered that the game was fire pro
(A few months later World was announced, i guess i can consider myself lucky hahaha)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 20:18:17 GMT
Somewhere around 1995 or 1996 I read about it on the old TNM website (pre-TNM7) when there were still video game reviews on there. One of the reviews was for SFPWX(P), and I had recently gotten an SNES and filing out the tabs was relatively simple so I decided to order the game and give it a shot. The game cost a ridiculous amount of money for a 14 year old kid at the time, but it was worth it long term.
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Post by hungerlow on Aug 24, 2018 20:35:21 GMT
My story isn't too exciting. I was asking around on a site like Gamefaqs if there was any way to play / purchase WRESTLEFEST, and it somehow evolved into someone suggesting that I give Fire Pro a shot. I ended up on that old site before FPWArena and what I saw prompted me to purchase Returns on PS3.
I'm not a long-time player like most people here, but I've clocked in an ungodly amount of hours in Returns. DP's Puroresu Kingdom is pretty much the collection that got me hooked.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 22:43:56 GMT
Somewhere around 1995 or 1996 I read about it on the old TNM website (pre-TNM7) when there were still video game reviews on there. One of the reviews was for SFPWX(P), and I had recently gotten an SNES and filing out the tabs was relatively simple so I decided to order the game and give it a shot. The game cost a ridiculous amount of money for a 14 year old kid at the time, but it was worth it long term. I noticed that the Mod Suite looked just like TNM 7. Made me feel at home. But didn't think anyone else knew it existed. :)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 22:52:15 GMT
TNM is the only game I've been playing longer than FirePro.
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Post by jzbadblood on Aug 24, 2018 23:06:12 GMT
First game was FPW 2 for GBA probably Christmas 02. Then I got a Dreamcast in about 2004 and messed with FPD. Modded my PS2 when Returns came out and also got copies of KOC2 and Red + Green. Eventually imported everything from Giant Gram to Toukon Retsuden.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 0:35:42 GMT
I heard about Fire Pro through osmosis and fantasized about getting 6MS from one of those gaming magazine ads. Never did get it and soon forgot all about the series.
Flash forward to me getting a GBA: SP. I had $20 and went in KB Toys to look at the games. Sure enough there's Fire Pro Wrestling for $20 on the shelf. Took it home...and hated it. Continued to play it. Continued to hate it. Eventually I came around on the gruesome fights/simming but I wasn't in love with it the way I was with the AKI games.
Sold my GBA and games to a friend. My sister's boyfriend gave me his old Dreamcast. When I got bored of playing Dave Mirra BMX, I got into the pirate scene. Burning episodes of Family Guy to VCD and getting a copy of Fire Pro Wrestling D. The Japanese text was annoying but I loved simming electrified cage matches and was blown away by the graphics compared to the GBA version.
After that, I sided with Xbox which meant no more Fire Pro. With Returns billed as the final Fire Pro, I assumed that was the end of the series.
Sold my 360 and move onto PC gaming. Played alot of Team Fortress 2. Sold my PC. Bought another PC in November 2015 and that's it. Spike announced World and I've been in ever since. This is the first Fire Pro where I really learned the gameplay and got in deep with playing it.
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Post by Nth on Aug 25, 2018 1:43:29 GMT
Coming off the AKI series, which at the time I thought was the absolute pinnacle of wrestling games, I literally wouldn't play anything else. After No Mercy came out I waited and waited and waited for what I assumed would be the eventual announcement of the next installment in the series. We had four continuous years of AKI games and I had no reason not to expect more with the games being highly acclaimed and a massive fan-following at the time. So when that time of the season came around, I began nervously wringing my hands as no announcement of a new game had been made and there had not even been a hint that there wouldn't be one.
The year came and went and the AKI message boards were just frothing as no one knew what was going on. I can't remember how exactly the announcement came about that the AKI / WWE partnership had ended, only that it had ended on very petty terms on the part of the WWE, if that story is true.
So another year of No Mercy. Fortunately I had a copy that wasn't glitched and managed to stretch out my enjoyment of the game by buying an N64 Dex Drive so I could create hundreds of wrestlers in the CAW mode and mix and match them up on the memory card through my PC. At the time I used to actually do monthly PPV's and actually tape them on VHS.
I was getting desperate for something new as the N64 was really showing its age by this point and I even decided I might cave in and get a copy of Smackdown Just Bring It. I had been souring on the actual WWE for a couple years by this point and barely watched any actual shows but I wanted a more modern up to date wrestling game. I had always considered the Smackdown series to be an antithesis of what a wrestling game should be. Sure they usually looked okay and had all the bells and whistles of the WWE in the graphics and sound department, but for the life of me I could not understand how any self proclaimed wrestling fan was enjoying the gameplay, especially coming off of the more sim styled approach the AKI games had.
So following along development of the title on the official forums, the old community outreach guy for the company was Sanders Keel. Anyone remember this guy and his infamous online meltdown? Anyway, Sander Keel was the official hype man for Smackdown Just Bring It and had told the community that they were even working with some former AKI developers on the new game and wanted to incorporate some of the AKI gameplay elements into the new installment. So I was fucking hyped for a wrestling game again. If AKI and Smackdown can meet somewhere in the middle I might be able to live with that. I even remember the old trailers they showed with chain wrestling sequences and interacting with the ropes, none of which turned out to actually be performable in the game.
So I bought Smackdown Just Bring It release day, brought it home and over the course of an hour of playing had my hype dwindle down into outrage. It was just more arcade horseshit with broken commentary and selling animations that didn't match up to what was happening to the wrestler. Stomp on a wrestlers leg and he would go into a selling animation of holding his head. WTF?
What truly killed it though was the Royal Rumble. The grueling, nail biting, hour long marathons of survival I had relished in Wrestlemania 2000 and No Mercy were relegated to campy ten minute punch fests in Just Bring It. I packed the game up, got my coat and took the game back to the store telling the guy behind the counter it should be called Smackdown Just Bring It Back.
Many of my evenings after that were spent just trawling through wrestling message boards looking for information on news for any upcoming wrestling game that didn't have Smackdown in the title. I guess I wasn't alone in the search because a thread pointed me to a Gamespot article about a Japanese wrestling game that had come out about a year or so earlier called Fire Pro Wrestling G.
I had actually heard of Fire Pro once before as my cousin had a emulated copy of Super Fire Pro Wrestling X Premium on his laptop that he used to bring over and maintain was the best wrestling game ever because it had a Create a Wrestler mode which was unheard of to me at the time. Problem was it was 2d and mostly full of wrestlers I had never even heard of, so I never really paid it much attention.
After doing a crapload of research on Fire Pro Wrestling G I was finally sold on giving the game a try, especially since there was literally nothing else on the horizon for a non Smackdown wrestling gamer. Ended up importing it and initially was not impressed at all. Like most new players to Fire Pro, learning the play mechanics was a long and frustrating ordeal that really soured me on the game. Although I did enjoy simming WWE vs WCW feuds on it quite a bit and the matches had a very dynamic and natural back and forth flow to them. With no huds on the screen to give away potential endings I was always surprised by those last second kickouts and this is probably what kept me trying to learn the game mechanics instead of shoving it off into the back of a closet and forgetting about it, like I did with a copy of AJPW King's Soul, which I would completely forget about until King of Colosseum Red was announced.
So that started off things off with Fire Pro. Once I also got into Japanese wrestling through Fire Pro the obsession was pretty much locked in. As long as there were Fire Pro games coming out I was determined to buy whatever I needed to play them. I bought two Dreamcast's just for Fire Pro Wrestling D and I almost bought an Xbox when I heard it was getting a Fire Pro game. Fortunately the game trailer hit before pay day and when I saw it in action I said this isn't Fire Pro and didn't buy the system.
So Fire Pro and it's KOC cousin have really been the only wrestling games I have played over the last decade. Although I did buy ASPWIII, my playtime with that was shortlived. It really wasn't until 2K and WWE started their games that I gave another wrestling series a try. While I still don't consider them on equal footing as Fire Pro I do consider them buyable although maybe not on day one. I just think of what a King of Colosseum game could be with the graphics and animation of a 2K WWE game but a modernized KOC grappling engine.
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Post by TheAvenger3 on Aug 25, 2018 1:55:35 GMT
I got into SFPWXP via SNES roms in late 90's, can't remember when. I was into a lot of booker/promoter sims - TNM, early EW, Promotion Wars - and the idea of simming matches and watching the outcomes was pretty cool.
I used to play a lot of local multiplayer with that SNES rom, if nothing else as a change of pace from Revenge/Wrestlemania 2000/No Mercy on N64. I didn't make a lot of edits on Fire Pro back then - that was reserved for the AKI games.
The first Fire Pro game I had a copy of was the first GBA game, and I played the hell out of it. Same for the sequel, too. When Returns came out for the PS2, I was on board early and downloaded save packs, but didn't participate in the community.
In between all of that and up to World, I probably had just about every annual WWE game. They're still great for what they are, but I was getting a bit fatigued from the series when World was announced. I've been logging a ton of hours since the day early access opened up, and not stopping anytime soon. I just wish I participated more in edit sharing before World.
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