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Post by donhughesmusic on Aug 26, 2021 18:28:16 GMT
How does everyone try to incorporate storylines into your Fire Pro experience? Write yourself? Use an outside game (Face To The Mat, etc)? Use ranking spreadsheets? Have your own way?
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Post by Johnny Jett on Aug 27, 2021 0:22:36 GMT
Well, despite my Sisyphean task of creating a fully fleshed out, constantly expanding wrestling universe (442 wrestlers in the US currently, 24 American promotions and growing), I do also have a somewhat nebulous idea of the overall lore of the setting, both in kayfabe and out of it. While this includes defunct promotions stretching back to the dawn of professional wrestling (in the modern sense) and legendary wrestlers to champion those companies, what most directly relates to this thread is how I handle in-universe kayfabe storylines. And, because the world isn't actively changing at this exact moment, but rather exists in a state of limbo where new elements keep being added and details keep changing, what this really manifests as for me is the "starting" storylines of the setting in its present day.
So, like, my "main" company is Power Pro Wrestling. Had a full first season that I posted on YouTube, lots of editing, full commentary, some additional voice acting work, blah blah blah. For that, the storylines emerged entirely from how the edits performed during simulation and then I figured out how to realize those and further those within the confines of what I had available to me. Because, again, this was for public consumption, so anything that happens necessarily must happen on screen. So I worked with what I had and kept the storylines fairly simple. And keeping it limited in that way kinda forced me to approach the company in a very, like, grounded, sort of very sport-like way. No backstage attacks, not many promos, the stories were told primarily in the ring and explained via my commentary. And, for Power Pro, I really like that. I'd want to expand it more--as my skillset has expanded some since that season--when I get to Season 2, but the sort of simplified, back-to-basics storytelling was nice and straight forward to book. Limiting my tools as a storyteller was fun.
This being said, the first season of Power Pro is the current, latest canonical thing to happen in my wrestling universe. It released in 2019 so in-universe, it's still 2019. Since then, I've build up all these other companies and populated them with hundreds of edits--as I've said--and I've figured out what the overall wrestling landscape is like at that particular point in time. And for that, I just made up stories on stories on stories--histories, backstories, storylines--explaining where the wrestling world is as of July 2019. And I have vague notions of where it would go from there.
So, even though you'd never see any of it on my YouTube channel or in Power Pro, I know that, like, in Motor City Championship Wrestling unsafe douchebag Solomon Church botched a spot and nearly caved "The Phenomenon" Evander Storm's face in with a baseball bat, leading to young daredevil Ash Riviera--Evander's shoot-bestfriend being elevated to a main event push which has then been turned into a worked shoot sort of storyline with Evander possibly being jealous of Riviera's push--exacerbated by their girlfriends getting into a feud because one woman spilled the other's bottle of beer and made her mad. So now they're locked into this almost reluctant feud as they both back their girlfriends up, teasing one turning heel on the other any minute.
Or I can talk about "The Architect" Anton LeSade, a sadistic veteran wrestler who was betrayed by his protege--"Blackheart" Tommy Blake--feuded with him in one company, worked things out, teamed with him in another company, was betrayed again, feuded with him again, lost a retirement match to his protege, went to ANOTHER company and built a stable of hot new stars (The Blueprint) to manage only for Blake to show up THERE and usurp his leadership role, turning the unlikeable, evil heel LeSade into a babyface leading to him coming OUT of retirement to fight the group that he built.
It goes on. I could literally talk about this for a couple of days straight.
And this is all kept track of mostly in a word document, organized on a series of spreadsheets. I've toyed with making an EWR or TEW 2020 scenario to simulate the rest of the world once I get into Power Pro Season 2, but I might just keep it as is and make up the rest of the world as I go.
TLDR: I put too much attention into the details of my fictional wrestling universe and keep track of those details with a combination of word processors, spreadsheets, and YouTube videos.
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Post by Senator Phillips on Aug 27, 2021 1:58:47 GMT
I've gone about it in a number of ways. My main original endeavor, the Senatorial Office works in a hybrid of written promos and streamed live events on Twitch, same with my All Time Boxing/All Time Fighting feds, although those rely less upon the promos than the Office does. I also have the Quantum Vault which is 100% writeups, and while I try to stick to the first sim results and react off those for the matches, it gives me some freedom to write more varied storyline interactions at times, where with the Office or All Time Boxing, I'm running live and have to interpret those as they happen. I'll roll dice whenever someone falls to a CRITICAL in an Office match to determine injury, unless it was a flash pin or something non impactful in that regard.
There is one other extremely loose storyline I've had running involving all the non-fictional wrestlers I've made, the All Era title, which by and large consists of wrestlers from all across wrestling history competing in eight person royales to earn a shot that has pretty much become the permanent property of prime Andre the Giant.
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Post by Johnny Jett on Aug 27, 2021 2:51:28 GMT
I've gone about it in a number of ways. My main original endeavor, the Senatorial Office works in a hybrid of written promos and streamed live events on Twitch, same with my All Time Boxing/All Time Fighting feds, although those rely less upon the promos than the Office does. I also have the Quantum Vault which is 100% writeups, and while I try to stick to the first sim results and react off those for the matches, it gives me some freedom to write more varied storyline interactions at times, where with the Office or All Time Boxing, I'm running live and have to interpret those as they happen. I'll roll dice whenever someone falls to a CRITICAL in an Office match to determine injury, unless it was a flash pin or something non impactful in that regard. There is one other extremely loose storyline I've had running involving all the non-fictional wrestlers I've made, the All Era title, which by and large consists of wrestlers from all across wrestling history competing in eight person royales to earn a shot that has pretty much become the permanent property of prime Andre the Giant.Wait, not to derail the thread or anything, but does this imply the existence of variant Andres? Like an Andre that crushed Hulkamania and is still under Bobby Heenan's control? Or a futuristic, robotic Andre replicant known as Andre 3000? |
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Post by LankyLefty17 on Aug 27, 2021 20:24:02 GMT
The really short answer is I created this to track everything:
I also have a spreadsheet because I'm a stat nerd and like looking at win loss. title history, and old card results.
The slightly longer answer is I write everything down, plan out potential stories and let the RNG gods take over for match results. The storytelling scratches a creative writing itch, and its really fun to try and tell stories around match results that you didnt plan on.
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Post by donhughesmusic on Aug 28, 2021 23:55:29 GMT
I've gone about it in a number of ways. My main original endeavor, the Senatorial Office works in a hybrid of written promos and streamed live events on Twitch, same with my All Time Boxing/All Time Fighting feds, although those rely less upon the promos than the Office does. I also have the Quantum Vault which is 100% writeups, and while I try to stick to the first sim results and react off those for the matches, it gives me some freedom to write more varied storyline interactions at times, where with the Office or All Time Boxing, I'm running live and have to interpret those as they happen. I'll roll dice whenever someone falls to a CRITICAL in an Office match to determine injury, unless it was a flash pin or something non impactful in that regard. There is one other extremely loose storyline I've had running involving all the non-fictional wrestlers I've made, the All Era title, which by and large consists of wrestlers from all across wrestling history competing in eight person royales to earn a shot that has pretty much become the permanent property of prime Andre the Giant.Wait, not to derail the thread or anything, but does this imply the existence of variant Andres? Like an Andre that crushed Hulkamania and is still under Bobby Heenan's control? Or a futuristic, robotic Andre replicant known as Andre 3000? Oh man, 70s Andre, 80s Andre, Mecha Andre, Ghost Andre, El Hijo Del Andre? The possibilities are endless! |
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Post by Senator Phillips on Aug 29, 2021 1:25:16 GMT
Wait, not to derail the thread or anything, but does this imply the existence of variant Andres? Like an Andre that crushed Hulkamania and is still under Bobby Heenan's control? Or a futuristic, robotic Andre replicant known as Andre 3000? Oh man, 70s Andre, 80s Andre, Mecha Andre, Ghost Andre, El Hijo Del Andre? The possibilities are endless! And Andre the Giant Head.... steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1649432745 |
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