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Post by Staubhold on Apr 8, 2022 20:56:19 GMT
According to Koji Ogata, graphic designer who worked on several Double Dragon titles, including the arcade version of Double Dragon II, Abore is just a modified sprite of André the Giant from WWF Superstars, another Technōs game. Apparently, this was made in order to speed up production of the game. Source: Double Dragon WikiSide by side: Mod version of Double Dragon II So, André the Giant under disguise was in Double Dragon II.
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Post by patmanqc on Apr 23, 2022 11:52:25 GMT
It's time to talk about SEGA's 1989 wrasslin' title WRESTLE WAR once again: Yesterday, I was watching an informative video from one of my favourite Youtube gaming historians PatmanQC. Among other interesting tidbits (such as Pat believing Mr. J. to be partially based on The Joker), Patman also revealed that Giant Baba himself was going to be a playable character. According to Pat, SEGA were lobbying for the rights to create an All Japan Pro-Wrestling game and as a show of good faith, removed Baba's unofficial likeness from the Wrestle War roster. You can check out Patman's video here: Thanks for the nice words, always nice to know I have a few fans out there. :-)
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Post by Shadow Master on Apr 23, 2022 19:34:28 GMT
Yes, Abore was basically a re-designed Andre The Giant paired with some Terminator influence. We're heading back into ultra-obscure territory again for my newest Pro-Wrestling discovery: Recognize the pitcher in the above photos? It's none other than Pro-Wrestler The Great Kabuki! Kabuki was a guest character in the Japanese mobile Baseball game " Burning! Professional Baseball Home Run Competition SP". I believe the game was first released back in 2015 with Kabuki's appearance being included a year later. Bull Nakano is another guest player. Bull Nakano's 1980'S ring wear and Killer Khan in entrance gear. Could the character in the headress for LV.14 (bottom left corner) be Abdullah The Butcher?!!! Like The Great Kabuki, Killer Khan now operates his own tavern. Khan is listed as "Khan-san" or "Mr. Khan" here. Hikaru Shida. Pro-Wrestler Sayaka Obihiro was also included as a guest character. Alas, the hooded character is Abdullah Kobayashi. Risa Sera from the Ice Ribbon promotion. The next Wrestler from the Japanese BJW Deathmatch promotion is Yuji Okabayashi. Ryuji Ito and Hideyoshi Kamitani. Takayuki Ueki and Eiji Tosaka. Personally, I think Burning! Baseball missed out by not including Stan Hansen as a playable character. Could you imagine being able to score home runs with a Western Lariat?!!!
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Post by Shadow Master on Apr 24, 2022 21:56:57 GMT
It's time to talk about SEGA's 1989 wrasslin' title WRESTLE WAR once again: Yesterday, I was watching an informative video from one of my favourite Youtube gaming historians PatmanQC. Among other interesting tidbits (such as Pat believing Mr. J. to be partially based on The Joker), Patman also revealed that Giant Baba himself was going to be a playable character. According to Pat, SEGA were lobbying for the rights to create an All Japan Pro-Wrestling game and as a show of good faith, removed Baba's unofficial likeness from the Wrestle War roster. You can check out Patman's video here: Thanks for the nice words, always nice to know I have a few fans out there. :-) It's an honour having you in this thread, Pat. I came across your "The History of Karate Champ" video and was hooked ever since. Thanks for bringing justice to so many forgotten gems. Now, for today's obscure spotlight: Taito Pro-Wrestling (2003 - J-Phone)Known in Japan as "タイトープロレス" (Taito Pro-Wrestling), Taito Pro-Wrestling is a mobile Wrestling game released only in Japan on the J-phone. Gamers may remember Taito for their 80's Arcade Wrasslin' title Champion Wrestler or the video game classic Bubble Bobble. There are two versions of the game: Taito Pro-Wrestling (which originally sold for 100 yen) and Taito Pro-Wrestling DX (which sold for 200 yen and was released on the J-Phone 5X model). Below are the only screens I could find of the game: There are two modes to choose from: Champion Mode: while controlling a generic Wrestler in black trunks, the player takes on three additional Wrestlers. Single Match Mode: where the player can select the other Wrestlers in a 1 on 1 match. While I don't have the official names of these Wrestlers, I'll still take a stab at guessing their origins. Black trunks: Antonio Inoki. Black tights: Masahiro Chono. Masked Wrestler: At first I thought he was based on Jushin Thunder Liger. Though, his mask and tights better resemble Tiger Mask. Blue singlet: This is the most ambiguous one. At first I thought he might be Minoru Suzuki. But, by 2003, Minoru hadn't adopted the crazy hairstyles just yet. The blue singlet reminds me of another former NJPW Wrestler: Michiyoshi Ohara. In Super Fire Pro-Wrestling Special and X, Ohara's Fire Pro adaptation even had a similar haircut. But, for a game that came out 8 years later, I think this is a coincidence. The crazy hairstyle of the blue singlet Wrestler looks identical to Super Invader (Big Van Vader) in Taito's PS1 version of Champion Wrestler.
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Post by Shadow Master on Apr 25, 2022 4:02:25 GMT
The next entry is a browser-based game with a few recognizable faces: Pro-Wrestling Action (2018)
Emphasizing super-deformed, cartoonish graphics, Pro-Wrestling Action's strongest point is the game's character sprites. The roster is pretty straight-forward: The Cliff: The Rock Bold Steve: Stone Cold Steve Austin John Rhino: John Cena Vladimir Strongman: I thought he was Bobby Rude or Harley Race at first. Though, the handlebar moustache is probably Triple H. Bulk: Probably the most laid-back Hulk Hogan knockoff around. Crock The Beast: Brock Lesnar Curve Angle: Sounds like Kurt Angle has a new job as an architect. Mexicano: the token Luchador. Rey Mysterio. There's only one mode to play: an endless royal rumble/survival mode where enemies continue to enter the ring until the player has been thrown out. Closing thoughts:There's really not much to say here. Simple gameplay, one mode to play through and only eight characters to choose from. There's also a level-up system where players can use in-game currency (earned by throwing opponents over the ropes) to purchase stat upgrades like stronger attacks, improved defence and longer "rage mode" times. Though, by the time you max out your Wrestler's stats, there's little incentive to keep playing. From my experience, it seems every Wrestler contains the same, identical moveset. Having said that, for a 10-minute distraction, Pro-Wrestling Action is a fun little time waster that Wrasslin' fans may get a kick out of. If you guys wanna give this game a spin, here's a link: html5.gamedistribution.com/d1367bdf6bb84b6bafd329747ef200fa/
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Post by Shadow Master on Apr 25, 2022 7:15:23 GMT
15 pages in and we're still making Pro-Wrestling discoveries. Time for another incredibly obscure game and one of the earliest examples of a booking simulator in a Pro-Wrestling game: Wrestle Life (PC)Known in Japan as: 人生プロレス~プロレス者達の挽歌~ Also known in Japan as: レッスルライフ Released in Japan back in 1996 by Pro-Force Systems, the goal of Wrestle Life is to "realize the dreams of wrestling fans and build an ideal world of professional wrestling". Wrestle Life's advertisements were filled with questions asking players if they had what it takes to be a great promoter and if they were ready to build the great wall of China in a Wrestling game. The cover mascot looks just like Antonio Inoki. Original advertisements for Wrestling Life circa 1995. You can notice Tiger Mask and what looks like Akira Maeda in the second ad. Like Funaki Masakatsu Hybrid Wrestler on the Super Famicom, one of Wrestle Life's selling points asked players if they were ready to get married? The timeline for Wrestle Life's in-game promoter/story apparently starts in 1980 from the reviews I read in Japanese. From the above cover, I'll take a stab at the roster: Top to bottom: Harley Race, Antonio Inoki, Giant Baba, Willie "Bearkiller" Williams Chris Dolman, Tiger Mask, The Cobra, Road Warrior Animal Gypsy Joe, Bruiser Brody, Akira Maeda The Wrestler in the bottom right is clearly based on Stan Hansen.
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Post by Shadow Master on Apr 27, 2022 7:40:04 GMT
In the age of smart phones and downloadable apps, the idea of playing a Wrestling game on a web browser seems pretty archaic these days. Though, that hasn't stopped developers from continuing to churn out browser-based Wrestling titles. Keeping the Pro-Wrestler likenesses going, I present to everyone: WRESTLE ONLINERight off the bat, WWE fans should notice a few Wrestler knockoffs. We'll get to them in a minute. The goal of Wrestle Online is to hit your opponent's head against the blue and orange barriers. Players lock up and have to press the jump button to forcefully move their opponent back and forth. The placement of the barriers also changes from round to round; offering some semblance of a strategy. The first Wrestler is known as Mysterio. Obviously Rey Mysterio. The red masked Wrestler is our first movie-based reference with a nod to Deadpool. The Joker. Indiana Jones. The princess from Frozen! An executioner? John Cena. At first I thought Ric Flair. But with the finger tape and goatee: CM Punk? I'm guessing Randy Orton and no idea on the last one. To unlock the other Wrestlers you have to complete matches. Unfortunately, after two matches, I was brought back to the main menu without any currency awarded; rendering my attempt to unlock anyone virtually impossible. Overall, I found Wrestle Online very unresponsive. When jumping in the air, in particular, the Wrestlers' struggle animations look more like swimming than an attempt at locking up. Matches (if you want to call them that) are dreadfully slow with a strange, teeter totter physic at play. For those of you who still want to give Wrestle Online a try, you can play it: HERE<---------------------
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Post by Shadow Master on Apr 27, 2022 9:02:06 GMT
Speaking of the WWE, did you know Jerry "The King" Lawler provided commentary for this next game: Bad Girl Wrestling is a series of mobile Wrestling games that are available for download in the Google Play store. Like Rumble Roses or Tecmo's Dead or Alive series, Bad Girl Wrestling has a strong emphasis on sex appeal. Speaking of which, as a connoisseur of puppies, Jerry The King Lawler provides a few snippets of commentary during matches. Whether Lawler's involvement was official or not is up to debate. All of the Wrestlers use fake aliases. The names of which change depending on which version of Bad Girl Wrestling you are playing. In the above photo, the Muta-esque Wrestler is named Beth Phoe - who looks nothing like Beth Phoenix. Jenne Morase is the ill-fated Jenna Morasca and the cleverly-named Charlot Flar is Charlotte Flair. Trash Startas is supposed to be Trish Stratus but Trash' character model looks clearly-inspired by Gail Kim. Aleza Bless is supposed to be Alexa Bliss, but looks more like Beth Phoenix to me. Velvat Skey is Velvet Sky. Though, she does better resemble Nikki Bella here. Ashlay Massao is the late Ashley Massaro. Here's a Fire Pro CAW idea for everyone: did you ever think you'd see "The Man" dressed in clown makeup?!! Becky Lynac is Becky Lynch. Christy Hemm is Christy Hemme. No idea on who "Maraei" is (feel free to chime in). In Bad Girls Wrestling Rumble, I've noticed more nods to Becky Lynch and Ronda Roussey. There's even a spot-on Asuka knockoff. I'm guessing the woman on the right is supposed to be Nia Jax. For curiosity's sake, I recommend downloading the latest version of Bad Girl Wrestling. The version I played must have been outdated, as the need to watch ads to unlock certain Wrestlers was disabled. 80's Mania Wrestling Returns:
The April update features a brand new likeness called Serpentina Stone. Serpentina is based off of Alundra Blayze's Madusa gimmick.
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Post by patmanqc on Apr 27, 2022 12:33:44 GMT
It's an honour having you in this thread, Pat. I came across your "The History of Karate Champ" video and was hooked ever since. Thanks for bringing justice to so many forgotten gems. Now, for today's obscure spotlight: Taito Pro-Wrestling (2003 - J-Phone)Known in Japan as "タイトープロレス" (Taito Pro-Wrestling), Taito Pro-Wrestling is a mobile Wrestling game released only in Japan on the J-phone. Gamers may remember Taito for their 80's Arcade Wrasslin' title Champion Wrestler or the video game classic Bubble Bobble. There are two versions of the game: Taito Pro-Wrestling (which originally sold for 100 yen) and Taito Pro-Wrestling DX (which sold for 200 yen and was released on the J-Phone 5X model). Below are the only screens I could find of the game: There are two modes to choose from: Champion Mode: while controlling a generic Wrestler in black trunks, the player takes on three additional Wrestlers. Single Match Mode: where the player can select the other Wrestlers in a 1 on 1 match. While I don't have the official names of these Wrestlers, I'll still take a stab at guessing their origins. Black trunks: Antonio Inoki. Black tights: Masahiro Chono. Masked Wrestler: At first I thought he was based on Jushin Thunder Liger. Though, his mask and tights better resemble Tiger Mask. Blue singlet: This is the most ambiguous one. At first I thought he might be Minoru Suzuki. But, by 2003, Minoru hadn't adopted the crazy hairstyles just yet. The blue singlet reminds me of another former NJPW Wrestler: Michiyoshi Ohara. In Super Fire Pro-Wrestling Special and X, Ohara's Fire Pro adaptation even had a similar haircut. But, for a game that came out 8 years later, I think this is a coincidence. The crazy hairstyle of the blue singlet Wrestler looks identical to Super Invader (Big Van Vader) in Taito's PS1 version of Champion Wrestler. The honor is all mine. This thread is fantastic and I thought I knew a lot about Pro wrestling video games but apparently not LOL thanks for all the hard work
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Post by BakFu on Apr 27, 2022 12:57:54 GMT
Just watched the Karate Champ video, awesome stuff! Still one of my favourite cabinet games of all time, very innovative for the time, and no one has really done anything quite like it since. I love the PS4 version mentioned in your video (bit salty about no platinum trophy available), it’s arcade perfect and it’s the Japanese version, so it was cool to see/hear something a bit different (“HAJIME!” “IPPON!”). Great job, sorry to hijack the thread! 😬
Now, someone needs to licence a Bloodsport themed Karate Champ!
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Post by Shadow Master on Apr 27, 2022 15:29:55 GMT
Just watched the Karate Champ video, awesome stuff! Still one of my favourite cabinet games of all time, very innovative for the time, and no one has really done anything quite like it since. I love the PS4 version mentioned in your video (bit salty about no platinum trophy available), it’s arcade perfect and it’s the Japanese version, so it was cool to see/hear something a bit different (“HAJIME!” “IPPON!”). Great job, sorry to hijack the thread! 😬 Now, someone needs to licence a Bloodsport themed Karate Champ! Like many of us, Patman is an old school Wrestling fan. Through Pat's Ninja Gaiden videos I discovered the unofficial inclusion of The Road Warriors (see previous posts in this tread).
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Post by Shadow Master on Apr 27, 2022 23:11:06 GMT
Growing up, one of my favourite type of video games were the beat em up genre. From Double Dragon to Knights of the Round. From Kunio Kun to Turtles In Time. If my local video store had a copy (or an arcade cabinet set up at the back), I was all over it. Though, despite my vast retro gaming knowledge, one game that I never had the chance to play back in the day was a little title called Ninja Warriors: Nina Warriors (or "Ninja Warriors Again" as it is known in Japan) is an update to the 1987 arcade classic of the same name. Gameplay-wise, Ninja Warriors had three characters to choose from: Kunoichi - the female ninja who uses swift movements and aerial techniques at the expense of attack power. Kamaitachi - the fastest character in the game that has a harder time throwing opponents. And... Ninja - the hulking blue Ninja that has great range, attack power and throwing capabilities to compensate for his slow speed. As Mike Haggar is the resident grappler of the Final Fight series, Ninja is Ninja Warrior's powerhouse Wrestler type. Above are three of Ninja's throws: the giant swing, the atomic drop and the slam. Maybe it's just me, but the spiked wristbands, shinobi hood and swinging nunchuk were possibly inspired by The Great Kabuki. Not to mention, The Great Kabuki's finisher was the Thrust Kick. If you've never heard of Ninja Warriors until now, I highly recommend watching Patman's documentary on the Ninja Warriors franchise below ("you'll be glad you did"):
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Post by Shadow Master on Apr 29, 2022 6:05:52 GMT
If guest characters in a Japanese Baseball game wasn't obscure enough for you, it's time to bring up another medium I've never talked about before: handheld LCD games. To start, let's take a look at: Big Wrestler (Known in Japan as "ビッグレスラー") (Can also be found using the following text "ビッグレスラー LCD ボードゲーム") Big Wrestler is a handheld LCD game released by Japanese publisher Gakken (who are best known for their 1980's tabletop LCD Pacman knockoff called "Super Puck Monster") in 1983. Besides being your typical handheld, Big Wrestler also came bundled with it's own board game that was to be used in conjunction while playing. The front cover features two Luchadors performing a Brainbuster. The one on the left is based on Mil Mascaras, while the Wrestler on the right reminds me of The Destroyer mixed with the extra mask Mil would throw to the audience before a match. The LCD handheld with board game mat. Obviously, the Luchador is once again based on Mil Mascaras; this time, performing his signature Flying Crossbody on a Wrestler who looks like Jumbo Tsuruta. Seeing as the board has three "start" sections (and All Japan Pro-Wrestling didn't invent the Triple Crown Championship until a few years later), I'm assuming up to three players could participate in Big Wrestler. Additional graphics show different Wrestling manuevers available in game. The manuevers shown are: Dropkick Cobra Twist Brainbuster Piledriver Elbow Drop The illustrations of the Wrestlers themselves in the middle are clearly inspired by Antonio Inoki and Stan Hansen. The Big Pro-Wrestling (Arcade 1983)(Known in Japan as ザ・ビッグプロレスリング ) In previous posts, we talked about one of the very first Wrestling games ever made: Tag Team Wrestling. The Big Pro-Wrestling is the Japanese Arcade version of the game: You may even notice Abdullah The Butcher at the bottom of the picture on the right.In the Japanese version, the player controls "The Gemini Brothers" Sunny and Terry (who are based on Antonio Inoki and supposedly Tatsumi Fujinami or Seiji Sakaguchi). The heel Wrestlers are Mad Bull Giant (Andre The Giant), Bloody Mask (Mil Mascaras) and a special character that only appears outside the ring: A Wrestler inspired by Tiger Jeet Singh wades through the audience. Seats are strewn and audience members scatter as Tiger begins attacking the opponent from outside the ring! You may also notice AJPW referee Jo Higuchi standing by as well. From the above promotional poster, Tiger's name is hard to make out. From what I can read, Tiger's name is written as バイオレンス・ シーザ・シニア (Violence Caesar Senior). Antonio Inoki's theme song is also present during The Gemini Brother's entrance. At the time, both All Japan Pro-Wrestling and New Japan Pro-Wrestling reportedly approved of The Big Pro-Wrestling - despite the name changes. As for why the roster was changed for the home console ports? Your guess is as good as mine.
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Post by Shadow Master on Apr 29, 2022 10:05:17 GMT
Next up is a Japanese RPG by the name of Granblue Fantasy (known in Japan as グランブルーファンタジー): The male Luchador in Granblue's Wrestler class bears an uncanny resemblance to Mil Mascaras (specifically, Mil's Aztec Sun God entrance attire). Furthermore, the male's red and blue mask reminds me of Mil's brother, fellow Lucha legend Dos Caras. The different colour palettes for both sexes in the Luchador class. Other than Kyoko Inoue, the female Lucha class doesn't bring any likenesses to mind.
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Post by Shadow Master on Apr 29, 2022 19:06:47 GMT
For those of you who think Tekken's King was the only Tiger Mask-inspired Wrestler in a fighting game, think again: Tiger Uotora from 2D fighter Dynamite Bomb. Dynamite Bomb follows in the graphical style made popular by games like Street Fighter Alpha, Darkstalkers, King of Fighters and Guilty Gear. Tiger's occupation is listed as a "fishmonger" and his last name Uotora is another reference to the Japanese word for Tiger (tora). On further research, the name "Uotora" is synonymous with Japanese sushi restaurants. Tiger's occupation reminds me of Jeffry McWild (a knockoff of karateka Willie Williams) from the Virtua Fighter series who's in-game occupation is listed as a fishermen.
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