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Post by TigerStripePro on Apr 2, 2020 4:36:35 GMT
I think the reason I never made a thread here is because I am worried so many of you will hate my edits or worry that my creations are mincemeat compared to the likes of many of you. Being in quarantine, and tired of feeling bad for myself, I thought I would open up some and share some of my edits. Fire pro being the way it is, all of my edits are considered works in progress. One more note. Some edits, I have used template edits as starting points before going off into my own world. I feel an odd shame with that, but oh well.
ANYWAY
My current project stems from the History of TSP I wrote a couple months back. In order to flesh out the history, I made up some names to give it some heart and soul I guess. Cut forward to week three of quarantine. It has been somewhat rough working from home, and I've been homesick for Alabama. I look back over the history I wrote and decide to finally give a face to names that have been floating around in my mind.
First off is Saturn. Saturn is a special wrestler to TSP and one I never made before this week. He was also in the history of the promotion for me since I started Fire Pro in 2013/14. He is the Randy Savage to King Kitune's Hulk Hogan. Maybe the better and more interesting wrestler, but rarely the leading star. He joined the MCW dojo in 1974 along with the likes of Kid Kitsune (later King), Lord Van High and Doug Dang 'em. After debuting a couple years later, he became a fan favorite for his violent, aggressive style. He was originally a masked wrestler, eventually losing his mask to Bill Flippo in a mask vs. hair mask in 1980.
After losing his mask, his popularity exploded. Saturn filled a need for wrestling fans in 1980s Alabama. King Kitsune was the bright colorful hero for kids. Bill Flippo was a little older and had a connection to the older crowd who loved his more technical style. Saturn though was the violent, angry underdog who wasn't as smart or powerful as his allies, but had more heart, soul and guts than anyone else in MCW. If there was going to be blood at a MCW, you could bet your bottom dollar it was from a Saturn match.
He has a little bit more history, but that can come later if people are interested.
So these attires are Saturn's original outfit. I have tried to be more colorful and bright with my edits of late. I feel like my masked wrestlers don't look very good but I'm okay with this. Saturn during this prime (1980ish-1994ish) I didn't realize until I was finishing up that Saturn looks a lot like Steve Corino. Saturn being a brawler type and know to dabble in blood and violence, I tried to add scars. I think they look okay but hopefully when the part creation comes out, I can try out some new scars for him. Saturn around his retirement period. Much like Terry Funk and longtime MCW rival Bill Flippo, Saturn has retired many times over the years. He will sometimes do some multi-person matches, but those are rare nowadays.
I don't have him on my workshop yet, but will in the coming days along with the next edit I will write about, the first MCW Heavyweight champion, Richard "Big River" Johnson. Any thoughts, questions, comments are more than welcome.
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Post by OrochiGeese on Apr 2, 2020 5:03:20 GMT
Thank you for sharing your edits with us!!!! 😁🏆
No mincemeat to be found here. Genuine uh prime cut 🥩
Saturn looks great and I can see your love for the character in the way you lay out his history. I really like his colorful attire too and that mask with the cool outlines and shading you gave it. I think your mask abilities are better than you give yourself credit for! His deathmatch appearance is also great! The blue/black tights are really cool with that great black pattern design. Is that a bandage on his eye? LOVE IT! 👏
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Post by faulknasty on Apr 2, 2020 5:11:39 GMT
Earlier I was looking to see if you had your edits in a collection to subscribe to your edits couldn't find one so I came on here to see if you had a thread so I could easily organize your edits but there wasn't one then.
That's a long weird way of saying I'm glad your showing your stuff on here. I enjoy your edits and I'm glad others will be able to easily see them now too
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Post by Senator Phillips on Apr 2, 2020 5:18:29 GMT
They are certainly not mincemeat, I like how your guys have a well realized history and context and that TSP manages to perfectly meld the old territory feel with a current day group, and it shows in the edits.
Don't feel bad about starting from template points, as long as the edits have your personal touch, that's just a time saver and a starting point. The Beatles and Stones started off doing covers, after all.
Keep posting away, TSP is good stuff and deserves attention.
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Post by faulknasty on Apr 2, 2020 5:38:33 GMT
They are certainly not mincemeat, I like how your guys have a well realized history and context and that TSP manages to perfectly meld the old territory feel with a current day group, and it shows in the edits. Don't feel bad about starting from template points, as long as the edits have your personal touch, that's just a time saver and a starting point. The Beatles and Stones started off doing covers, after all. Keep posting away, TSP is good stuff and deserves attention. I agree no shame in using a template. I used them when I started and I use them now to help me get my head around an idea and to help me get an edit done faster. Two of my last three edits were made using another edit as a base. The third I looked at another edit to get the idea for the moveset. No shame in getting help. |
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Post by Zealot on Apr 2, 2020 5:42:08 GMT
Welcome to the fold, Leathers. Your creativity is much appreciated.
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Post by LankyLefty17 on Apr 2, 2020 6:13:07 GMT
I actually enjoyed your stuff when it was more readily available on the workshop (and truth be told still have a few). Please keep em coming, the efed world needs access to Tiger Stripe Pro’s roster
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Post by TigerStripePro on Apr 2, 2020 16:56:20 GMT
Thank you all for the kind words. I will be adding more of my edits to the workshop over the weekend. Richard "Big River" Johnson
MCW/TSP Legend, Heavy, Face "The Big River" is the original star and ace of MCW. Before becoming a wrestler, Richard worked on his fathers fishing boat. After a chance encounter with Don Flippo in a fish market, Richard was the first student of the MCW dojo. Despite the constant threat of abuse from a largely white audience, Richard became a household name around central Alabama due to his power, resilience and heart. MCW was the first wrestling promotion in central Alabama to feature African American, Asian, and Mexican talent, with Big River as the star attraction. Standing 6'6", Richard towered over and dominated most of his opponents whether they be Nazis, Soviets, or evil Tennessee scum. Richard was the first MCW Heavyweight champion and fought the likes Lou Thesz and a young Harley Race before MCW left/was denied entry into the NWA in 1964. The name Big River came from his father, who bestowed the name onto Richard after Richard purchased the nicest fishing boat he could for his family. Richard was known to be a very giving and kind man. Richard helped during the civil rights movement in Alabama as well. He was often seen during marches and protests, and served as a body guard for Fred Shuttlesworth. Legend has it, that during a lunch counter sit in, 10 men all pulling on Big River could not dislodge him from his seat. When he finally decided to leave the counter, his ripped the swivel chair from the floor and took it with him. Don Flippo, while he never outwardly supporting the civil rights movement, was always there to get Richard out of jail following protests. Sadly, Richard would pass away after being hit by a car in downtown Montgomery on Christmas Eve 1975. He had saved a young man from being hit by a drunk driver. Rumor has it, the drunk driver was a local Senator leaving the apartment of his secret girlfriend. Big River is a Alabama wrestling legend, but more importantly a hero.
Early 60s gear. His overall design/moveset is based on Bobo Brazil and Bruno Sammartino.
Late 60s -1975. Changed the hair and add facial hair.
I will add Saturn on the Workshop later today. He is modded currently.
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Post by TigerStripePro on Apr 2, 2020 17:45:10 GMT
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Post by Ramon on Apr 3, 2020 12:51:20 GMT
Saturn looks great! Your other edits are looking pretty spiffy as well. :) Can't wait to see more of these! :D
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Post by OrochiGeese on Apr 3, 2020 21:49:35 GMT
Wow, Big River has such a thorough and inspiring backstory that he legit sounds like a real person!!
A great clean, streamlined look as well 😎
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Post by TigerStripePro on Apr 6, 2020 20:15:20 GMT
Hanshin Tiger
The second or third edit I ever made waaaayyyy back in 2013/14. I remember getting my copy of Fire Pro Wrestling Returns for ps2 at a gamestop for 10 bucks used after looking for a non-wwe wrestling game. I was getting back into baseball at the time and I had just finished the book, "You Gotta Have Wa". The chapter about the Hanshin Tigers was especially compelling and led me to create maybe my most well known edit. If you are interested in Japanese baseball I highly suggest reading the book. Fairly well written and a good primer on its history and culture.
I have been asked before, but I did not know Hanshin Tiger was an *actual* wrestler until a month or so after I made my version. Thankfully that discovery led me to further look into Michinoku Pro, which is one of my feds primary influences.
I cannot remember what led me to the design choices I made for Hanshin. Looking at the Hanshin Tigers uniforms over time, they do not have too many colors schemes matching Tigers default attire.
I think I just really like the combo of black, white and yellow together at the time. Jaeger Flippo has a similar color scheme as do multiple other edits I've made since those early days. In terms of his development history, I believe he has had the same moveset, with some minor tweaks, for most of his history. World opened his moveset up quite a bit, but the same basic structure is there that was present in Returns. Hanshin was my first edit, not built off of another edit. Jaeger was built off a Samoa Joe edit and Super Kakita was based on on Jushin Thunder Liger edit. Hanshin was the only edit, out of Jaeger, that I "imported by hand" meaning I had my ps3 save on my TV and remade him piece by piece in World, referencing the ps3 version when needed.
The other attire are more closely connected to actual Hanshin Tiger uniforms. I am most proud of the white stripped one. There is also a deathmatch version of Hanshin Tiger, but I am still working on him. Hanshin Tiger can also ref a match for you if called upon.
To write a history of Hanshin Tiger, I would need a lot of time and caffeine.
No one is sure who Hanshin Tiger is under the mask, outside of Jaeger Flippo, Don Flippo, Bill Flippo and Super Kakita. Some rumors include that Tiger is related in someway to the Flippo family, that Tiger escaped Japan after his father sold his family to the Yakuza, or that Tiger has been "played" by multiple wrestlers over the years. Despite these ongoing rumors, no one dare ask the man to his face whether these are true.
During the MCW, Tiger was always near the top of any division he was in after debuting in 1994. Tiger, despite being named after a Japanese Baseball team, was surprised he was so well received in Alabama. Tours of Southeast USA, Mid Atlantic USA, Mexico, Canada, Japan, Vietnam and Poland have made Hanshin Tiger a well known name in wrestling and independently wealthy. Tiger is one of the few "Triple Crown" champions in MCW, being a MCW Heavyweight (x1), Juniorweight (x3),Juniorweight and Heavyweight Tag Title (x4), SuperCrazy (x2), TV title (x1), Openweight (x2) champion. Hanshin Tigeress was also "created" during this time and found great success in the MCW sister promotion, AAW (All Alabama Women's Pro Wrestling).
By the early 2000s, Tiger was booking the Juniorweight division for MCW, a job he kept until the company folded in 2016. Hanshin would be involved in feuds with Jaeger Flippo, Lee Gold Jr, Super Kakita, Master Daddy and Great Oni. Until 2016, Tiger saw himself possibly passing on his mask and legacy onto one of his trainees. Hanshin is very private and does not disclose much of his personal life outside of scant information found in Japanese magazine interviews and shoot interviews from retired MCW wrestlers. Hanshin was not present for the Jan 1. 2016 plane crash that killed 18 wrestlers, MCW staff and flight crew. While not revealed until a recent podcast interview, one of the MCW staff members aboard that did not survive was Tigers son.
The following months, according to the podcast, was a blur for Tiger. He remembers wrestling for a short time in LLCW-i, but the details are blurry due to depression, drinking and family issues. What brought Hanshin Tiger back to himself and the wrestling world, according to Tiger, was the 2017 Great Oni Memorial Tournament. Tiger made it to the finals, losing to Fullbug in an excellent match. Tiger created the tournament along side Super Kakita to celebrate the life of his former rival Great Oni, but also to exorcise the demons that haunted him.
By early 2018, LLCW-i, the short lived follow up to MCW, folded. Pooling together resources, Hanshin Tiger, Super Kakita, Jaeger Flippo and Tiger Trillions bought the rights to the MCW/LLCW-i footage from TNBC, along with the name and territory. Tiger Stripe Pro was born. Tiger is the head booker and talent scout for TSP and wrestles mostly full time as of 2020. While TSP has had a somewhat rocky road, Tiger has been its guiding light.
Hanshin has also been key in building relationships with Port City Pro (Mobile/Port City, AL), Senator Phillips and his many, many, many promotions, ZIP Japan, Warrior Pro, Phoenix Rising, AAW, SCFL which has brought more eyes and attention to TSP. Tiger also has hands, albeit no always positive, in the creation of several wrestling organizations including Astral Ark (Osaka, Japan), Blood Blossom Wrestling and Montgomery Wrestling Federation (Montgomery, AL) and Liquid Championship Wrestling (Birmingham, AL). Lastly Tiger has renewed the Young Tiger program and along with Super Kakita has reopened the MCW dojo.
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Post by LankyLefty17 on Apr 7, 2020 2:35:54 GMT
I very much enjoyed everything about this post. Keep em coming (aka repost Jaeger Flippo)
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Post by TigerStripePro on Apr 7, 2020 14:58:39 GMT
I very much enjoyed everything about this post. Keep em coming (aka repost Jaeger Flippo) Jaeger is coming. I realized I have two different version of him on my save and I gotta remember which is which.
I made a rough attempt at a show intro
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Post by Senator Phillips on Apr 7, 2020 15:50:16 GMT
Absolutely enjoying the in-depth bios and history lessons here, and that intro was amazing(and I'm not just saying that because ol' Senator and Jaeger have a spot on it), the music is perfect territory wrestling stuff, the interspersed clips of FPR era TSP were much welcomed and give it a proper sense of a historic promotion and best of all, the multi-taunt spot had me laughing my head off.
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