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Post by Dawnbr3ak3r on Feb 12, 2020 16:27:50 GMT
I don't even know what those are without looking them up but you can tell how the two moves, the one in real life and then the one in the game, in the trailer aren't even close to being similar. Even worse, they literally show her doing the O'Connor Roll before her in-game footage is shown, lol. O'Connor Roll is a Rear Waistlock where the attacker rolls backwards, pinning the opponent in a folded position. The Rolling Prawn Hold is similar. The O'Connor Roll precedes the German Suplex in the O'Connor Roll German Suplex, more commonly called the Chaos Theory. It also begins the Delfin Special and Delfin Special II (O'Connor Roll Tiger Suplex) - I couldn't find a gif of the Delfin Special II, but it's available as a Back Grapple Suplex in Fire Pro. O'Connor Roll:  Rolling Prawn Hold:  O'Connor Roll German Suplex:  Delfin Special:  ~~~ Code Red is a Sunset Flip/Yoshi Tonic Bomb, innovated by the Amazing Red. A variety of other wrestlers have since helped popularize the move, including: Rey Mysterio, Alexa Bliss, John Cena, Starlight Kid, among others. Also, the Code Red should not be mistaken for the Canadian Destroyer. Code Red:    Canadian Destroyer:  |
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Post by Timberwolf on Feb 12, 2020 16:33:05 GMT
Isn't code red already in the game as the super rana?
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Post by eskiman on Feb 12, 2020 16:35:17 GMT
Yeah code red is already in, was using amazing red yesterday
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Post by Zealot on Feb 12, 2020 17:16:28 GMT
Yeah. No O'Conner Roll in that trailer was disappointing. They edited the Triangle Lancer so you would think the Roll wouldn't be any harder to make even without the taunt.
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Post by IamAres on Feb 12, 2020 17:20:25 GMT
Bear in mind that we also know for sure there are at least SOME other new moves than the ones in the video here, as that c2c knee wasn't in this video and we've seen it. It is really odd they'd use a Code Red for Yama-san if she doesn't do it, though. Like, that's not even the closest O'Connor Roll sub.
I love that new frog splash, and I really, really hope that pin is available as a normal pin, too, because a TON of people do it now.
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Post by Dawnbr3ak3r on Feb 12, 2020 17:28:09 GMT
Bear in mind that we also know for sure there are at least SOME other new moves than the ones in the video here, as that c2c knee wasn't in this video and we've seen it. It is really odd they'd use a Code Red for Yama-san if she doesn't do it, though. Like, that's not even the closest O'Connor Roll sub. I hope you're right. The Rolling Prawn Hold that I showed a gif of earlier would be the closest thing to it that we already have. Yeah, I really like her new Frog Splash. I expected either this one or a Corner variation where she does three Frog Splashes in rapid succession a-la the Triple Moonsaults. |
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Post by Zealot on Feb 12, 2020 17:57:05 GMT
I hope so. I figure the O'Conner Roll is incredibly easy to animate for them since all the animation is already in the game with mutiple roll up moves from back grapple + the pin animation from the Victory Star Drop from the top rope.
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Post by faulknasty on Feb 12, 2020 19:39:13 GMT
I don't even know what those are without looking them up but you can tell how the two moves, the one in real life and then the one in the game, in the trailer aren't even close to being similar. Even worse, they literally show her doing the O'Connor Roll before her in-game footage is shown, lol. O'Connor Roll is a Rear Waistlock where the attacker rolls backwards, pinning the opponent in a folded position. The Rolling Prawn Hold is similar. The O'Connor Roll precedes the German Suplex in the O'Connor Roll German Suplex, more commonly called the Chaos Theory. It also begins the Delfin Special and Delfin Special II (O'Connor Roll Tiger Suplex) - I couldn't find a gif of the Delfin Special II, but it's available as a Back Grapple Suplex in Fire Pro. O'Connor Roll: Rolling Prawn Hold: O'Connor Roll German Suplex: Delfin Special: ~~~ Code Red is a Sunset Flip/Yoshi Tonic Bomb, innovated by the Amazing Red. A variety of other wrestlers have since helped popularize the move, including: Rey Mysterio, Alexa Bliss, John Cena, Starlight Kid, among others. Also, the Code Red should not be mistaken for the Canadian Destroyer. Code Red: Canadian Destroyer: Yeah that's what I was trying to say even though I don't know the names the move they show her in the trailer do before her in the game were completely different |
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Post by Dakota on Feb 12, 2020 21:44:59 GMT
No Back Grapple O'Connor Roll for Yama-san might be the biggest disappointment in the entire DLC. I'm 100% certain she's never done the Code Red ever. Code Red isn't even close to an O'Connor Roll. Goddammit, this is going to bug me forever. While I wouldn't be shocked if they just skip the O'Connor Roll (they skipped other major moves in DLC 1), it might still show up. It's super easy to make, I know that from personal experience. As for the Yoshi-Tonic, I'm not sure if she has ever used it as DEATH Yama-san (especially early on she might have), but it has been Yoneyama's finisher for years, together with Chaos Theory (O'Connor Roll German Suplex). So it's not a surprise they gave it to her moveset. Slightly weird to showcase it in the video though. |
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Post by Dawnbr3ak3r on Feb 12, 2020 21:48:59 GMT
No Back Grapple O'Connor Roll for Yama-san might be the biggest disappointment in the entire DLC. I'm 100% certain she's never done the Code Red ever. Code Red isn't even close to an O'Connor Roll. Goddammit, this is going to bug me forever. While I wouldn't be shocked if they just skip the O'Connor Roll (they skipped other major moves in DLC 1), it might still show up. It's super easy to make, I know that from personal experience. As for the Yoshi-Tonic, I'm not sure if she has ever used it as DEATH Yama-san (especially early on she might have), but it has been Yoneyama's finisher for years, together with Chaos Theory (O'Connor Roll German Suplex). So it's not a surprise they gave it to her moveset. Slightly weird to showcase it in the video though. Yeah; When I say she's "never done it ever", I mean as the character. I don't recall ever seeing her use it as Yama-san. I do admit that I haven't seen a lot of her work outside of Stardom besides one or two multi-man matches that I barely remember anymore. |
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Post by 22nijuni on Feb 16, 2020 14:41:42 GMT
No Back Grapple O'Connor Roll for Yama-san might be the biggest disappointment in the entire DLC. I'm 100% certain she's never done the Code Red ever. Code Red isn't even close to an O'Connor Roll. Goddammit, this is going to bug me forever. Death Yama did the Code Red several times last year. |
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Post by saintcross on Feb 17, 2020 1:05:19 GMT
I honestly think the new CTC Knee is kind of underwhelming. Looks like she slipped on a banana peel. The Nomisugi Knee is much better. Now I really want a CTC Bicycle Knee.
The rest of the moves look great. I like that in the Triangle Lancer the opponent kicks their legs. That's unique, right? I'd love a Small Package like that.
And agreed on that frog splash pin, that should be a move of its own.
It'd be cool if they made the Overhead Elbow Butt into a strike exchange move too, even though they probably won't.
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Post by saintcross on Feb 17, 2020 4:37:17 GMT
It's a seperate move.
Mount Hooked-Leg Fall
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Post by IamAres on Feb 17, 2020 4:44:17 GMT
Yes! This is actually the move I'm most excited for now. Everyone does this, it seems like. I like that they seem to have put it at the head, too. That'll let you have this and the reverse leg hook in a normal moveset.
EXCITE!
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Post by sonny615 on Feb 17, 2020 9:13:38 GMT
Yep, this is a 'generic' move that can fit for so many wrestlers. This is a really nice surprise.
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