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Post by facesoffoley on Aug 26, 2019 20:28:10 GMT
Lately I've been meaning to tackle the beast that is my wrestler order list. But with the sheer amount of edits that I have it's gotten a bit out of hand. Does anyone have any ideas on how to better organize it? Or tips on making it easier?
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Post by LankyLefty17 on Aug 26, 2019 21:28:55 GMT
Its less needed now that we can sort by promotion in edit mode and edit select in game mode. What are using the list for?
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Post by IamAres on Aug 26, 2019 21:57:22 GMT
If you sort your guys alphabetically, as some folks do, it's easy to keep organized; just file everyone alphabetically and put new guys in the proper space when you make them. Personally though, I hate it and I think it feels too much like Smackdown.
I sort guys the old-school Firepro way, which is in order of importance/dominance from top to bottom. So like, Lou Thesz, Karl Gotch, Rikidozan, and so on down the line. It can get a bit ambiguous where to put people near the middle of the list especially, and that's where this system gets a bit more difficult to manage.
What I will do when I'm placing somebody is think to myself "who should he NOT be above?" and "who should he DEFINITELY be above?" This usually gives me a much smaller and more manageable range to place a wrestler into. It also helps to first have an idea where this particular guy really falls in the grand scheme of all of wrestling.
Another similar system would be to sort guys by point totals - put them into a spreadsheet or some such with their point totals (which can be seen in edit mode without loading them all the way) and then just sort that sheet. That's a definitive, unambiguous master list with no guessing about where a guy goes, with the "best" guys theoretically at the top. (Although overall point totals don't actually mean anything, but that's another topic.)
Those would be some basic systems. The one I use is probably the trickiest to maintain, but it's also the only one I would ever want to see in my game, so it's what I do.
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Post by Senator Phillips on Aug 26, 2019 23:51:32 GMT
If you sort your guys alphabetically, as some folks do, it's easy to keep organized; just file everyone alphabetically and put new guys in the proper space when you make them. Personally though, I hate it and I think it feels too much like Smackdown. I sort guys the old-school Firepro way, which is in order of importance/dominance from top to bottom. So like, Lou Thesz, Karl Gotch, Rikidozan, and so on down the line. It can get a bit ambiguous where to put people near the middle of the list especially, and that's where this system gets a bit more difficult to manage. What I will do when I'm placing somebody is think to myself "who should he NOT be above?" and "who should he DEFINITELY be above?" This usually gives me a much smaller and more manageable range to place a wrestler into. It also helps to first have an idea where this particular guy really falls in the grand scheme of all of wrestling. Another similar system would be to sort guys by point totals - put them into a spreadsheet or some such with their point totals (which can be seen in edit mode without loading them all the way) and then just sort that sheet. That's a definitive, unambiguous master list with no guessing about where a guy goes, with the "best" guys theoretically at the top. (Although overall point totals don't actually mean anything, but that's another topic.) Those would be some basic systems. The one I use is probably the trickiest to maintain, but it's also the only one I would ever want to see in my game, so it's what I do. I used to have things ordered in the old school way in the giant list, but now, I've started sorting everything by promotion, but in the same order. So in this case, Flair's on the top of my NWA promotion, Fedor on my MMA one, Ali for my boxers, etc. The key is that I'm organizing the big list to group everybody together by promotion, so my boxers are all sorted together, my MMA fighters, each wrestling fed, so it's easy to sort them relative to who they're grouped with. I'll never finish this, more likely than not, but it's a nice effort to undertake. |
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Post by OrochiGeese on Aug 27, 2019 3:30:09 GMT
I actually did some resorting of the list last night. I was sick of having all the SWA (Spike Default) guys at the top and moved them all toward the bottom, haha. Sorry Steel Johnson!
For the past two years I've had wrestler order (for organization and factions) based on my ranking of them but I changed some things around a little. Last night I created kind of a hybrid ranking/frequency shift. I realized that edits who are highly ranked but that I almost never select were kind of "clogging up" the top of the faction list. So I moved them down a little.
(I figure if they get insulted by this move, we may have bigger problems!! I'm sure there's some kind of internal "PWI 500" list that they all get pissy about if they miss the top 50 but I've yet to see them climb out of my game to take me to task for it).
So now the "top" of each promotion and faction has edits who are higher ranked and used by me frequently. That saves me time scrolling and also encourages me to finish some of the edits toward the bottom that probably deserve to be at the top.
This is just for my and other e-feds though. For all the RL edits that I download, I tend to just let them fall where they do on the list and only re-order them if I use one a lot and have trouble finding it.
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Post by facesoffoley on Aug 27, 2019 3:44:37 GMT
Thanks guys. These are all helpful tips. Now I just gotta get the will to do it all. It's not as fun as organizing an actual promotion
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Post by OrochiGeese on Aug 27, 2019 4:03:44 GMT
Yeah, it's kind of boring to organize the main list. Have something going on in the background like TV or music so it's not such a tedious chore. It really is helpful though and kind of necessary. I hate having my most used edits on the bottom of the list and having to keep scrolling down to get to them.
I've said it for two years now and I'll say it again - I wish Spike gave us something closer to FPR's "one stop shopping" edit mode rather than FPD's fragmented menu edit mode. In FPR you could organize order within factions in a super easy, quick, and logical way. In FPD you have to juggle like 2 menus to do it. It's ridiculous.
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