Fire promoter questions

I haven't pinpointed how Trust works but here are my theories:

1) How often you book him on your show rather than loaning him to another promotion.
2) How high up on the card you book him.
3) How high you pay him relative to his popularity.
4) Whether you book him according to the style they use and/or your promotion's style.

Other less certain ideas:

5) How often he wins his matches or how high his match ratings tend to be.
6) Whether you send him to promotion's not consistent with his wrestling style.
7) If you send him on learning excursion.


I have a wrestler named THRASH Ogawa and despite pushing him, he tends to go no higher than a "B" trust rating and spends most of his time with "C" Trust.  This is a wrestler who is currently paid in the $3000 range (higher than just about all of my main eventer). I thought that high pay would fix the trust issue but it doesn't alone.  I tried forcing a style change and it didn't seem he liked that. I loaned him to other feds and he didn't seem to like that either, even with the high pay.  I've rarely booked him above the midcard and he has lost some matches but with a high rating. 

I have a few other wrestlers who I treat really well who also don't go above a "C" and I'm not sure exactly why.  Naja Mask has been treated like a Serpent King but doesn't go above a "C."


Granted, his character is kind of a jerk, and the same goes for THRASH. So maybe Fire Promoter recognizes my canon writing for them and is allowing them to live the gimmick 😁

I've had a few wrestlers leave, primarily cause I haven't booked them or haven't paid them enough. I really hope I don't lose THRASH and Naja as I have been pushing each of them and Naja has a few Championships from other promotions. I was going to give THRASH a title shot at the ACE Hardcore promotion but gave it to someone else instead (cause of backstage powaz) and that may come back and bite me on the neck 🦇

One of the double-edged sword issues with using the money cheat and having a huge roster is making sure they are always doing something. It takes me about 20 minutes for each month to invite outside talent to my show, create a card for my event, and then loan my remaining (like 30 wrestlers) out to other promotions for that month. I always want wrestlers doing something. A lot of my loaned wrestlers have captured titles and had their popularity raised as a result. So it's worth taking the time to figure out where to loan them. However, two of the risks in doing so are that they may get tired or that they may get injured. One guy got his arm broken on loan to the ACE hardcore promotion and was on the shelf for 3 months. Luckily for me, he was a low card tag wrestler. Unluckily for him, during the time he was injured, his tag partner left my promotion!!

Training expeditions aren't really helping me right now because they don't seem to raise the wrestler's popularity in those regions. All they seem to do is allow me to make inroads with specific wrestlers or specific promotions. The former doesn't help cause my roster cap is full. The latter helps me a little but isn't really worth losing a wrestler for a while. If anything, it kind of "back burners" a wrestler so it's one less one I have to book or send out. In that respect, it's helpful. It seems that a wrestler will lose trust if they aren't booked at all or if they aren't loaned. But my roster is so big, that I can't help that. So sending them on a training expedition at least gives them something to do in the meantime without causing a loss in trust. Plus, when they come back, I like to imagine in my head that they are hot with the fans so I push them a little.

I keep trying to expand my gym but even after expanding it twice, I can't sign any more wrestlers. It's kind of my fault for starting with such a big roster. But if I fire more than two wrestlers, my TV contract may drop me. So I'm just kind of ignoring some low carders on my roster hoping they gradually drop out but without any loss of popularity for me or trust with other wrestlers. I'd love to sign some of the wrestlers that my wrestlers met on training expeditions or some of the wrestlers that my scouts checked out. Granted, even my lower card characters put on matches I like better than the vast majority of the defaults. But for the purposes of playing Fire Promoter, I'd love to sign some new fictional Spike wrestlers just for the fun of it.

Also, I really need more Strong Style and Showman edits so that other promotions will work with me more.




Maybe Showman style can allow a wrestler to retain their popularity better if they lose but get high rankings? It would kind of make sense, though be an unfair advantage to that style over others.



From my experiences and my questionable understanding of the engine, it's probably harder for guys to raise popularity in tag matches. I'm not sure if both guys get a boost from the win or just the one that secures the victory. Winning a Title should help though, especially if it's against a higher ranked team.



A new bear was found by a scout in Japan and I want to sign him once we start to focus shows there. I think he's hardcore style so I'm only going to send my most ruthless edits to face him 😁

Hope he doesn't hibernate in the winter!

I think he's a white bear but I have to double check. I saw that my scout found him right before turning the game off 2 nights ago so my memory fixated more on the species than what shade of beautiful bear coat he had 😀




I almost always book 10 match cards but I noticed the other promotions rarely do. Maybe the best thing for you to do, when playing without the cheat, is to book smaller cards to allow some guys to rest?

The more wrestlers you invite from other feds, the higher the no-show rate it seems. I'm still trying to get to the bottom of the reason why invited wrestlers no-show but I think at least part of the reason is if you have too many other invited wrestlers who work different styles, forcing you to set up a lot of different styled matches on your show, ultimately alienating other invited wrestlers. Like even if you book an invited wrestler in the style of match they prefer, it kind of seems like they get offended about being in a match on the same event as a match of a different style. I'm still trying to figure that out though and I know that RNG plays a part in it.  It's very confusing but the more wrestlers you invite and the more styles that are represented, it just seems the higher potential of no-shows.  So you can't pad your events too much with invited wrestlers to compensate for resting your guys. I think it may be better to just book a smaller card.


I also don't think that a wrestler can get injured or tired when on Training Exhibition. I had a few wrestlers in "poor" and "normal condition" and sent them away for a few months just so that they could rest without losing any popularity or trust in me for not getting booked.

Hmm - Another question is whether a wrestler will actually lose trust with you if they are injured but you continue booking them on your shows or loaning them to other promotions. Maybe we are both experiencing that issue. There are sometimes I forget to check a wrestler's health before booking or loaning them.





Yeah there's probably some kind of equation as to how much a wrestler gets by winning a tag match or being on the winning team. Perhaps the equation has multiple variables like the match rating or some kind of RNG determination. Perhaps one victory isn't worth the same as another similar victory cause of an RNG factor.




I've been pleasantly surprised by many of the new defaults!! I even asked Spike to make them available either directly or by allowing us to clone them as new edits. I keep getting solid matches and high ratings with the same wrestlers when I invite them to shows. I like these defaults a lot and MUCH better than the SWA ones and better than the FPR defaults. I haven't tested any of the new Spike New Japan wrestler defaults though. And aside from edit work, I like some of the new character profiles that Spike made for Fire Promoter!

this has probably been answered already. so are we able to edit our wrestlers while they are used in fire promoter or will it erase our promoter save file? i know thats an issue that over a year a go they wanted to allow due to fan request. dont know if they actually implemented it and im scared to check since japanese appears in the edit screen when i choose overwrite option

Thanks to the C!C twitter, I finally saw this post!

Thank you for creating this awesome spreadsheet! 😀💡 👏

Just one question for clarification:

So after you input the information related to the four factors, the resulting numbers on the bottom right of the spreadsheet are points or percentage chance that a specific Fire Promoter style will be chosen?

They're point values.

I couldn't tell if some categories are being weighted, so if point values are extremely close, I think it's possible the 2nd highest from the spreadsheet could end up being the style. I'm not sure what happens in the case of a tie.

Inside Fire Promoter, I've heard of edits changing styles, which makes sense if their attributes change. Their fighting, return style, and weapon can be changed by altering the edit, but if some ratings can change by even 1 point from the promotion's gym, there could be some major shifts because of the logic used when calculating the style points based on parameters.