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Post by padrian on Aug 8, 2018 20:03:00 GMT
Have you experienced one wrestler jumping onto the other’s neck as if to perform a frankensteiner, only the other wrestler just bends over, pinning the first wrestler? It comes across like an illogical offensive move (one I’d never put in the game), BUT is this a defensive counter to a failed frankensteiner?
If so, it still looks weird. But it makes more sense than a powerbomb where the opponent voluntarily jumps onto the wrestler’s neck.
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Post by Senator Phillips on Aug 8, 2018 20:05:18 GMT
We call this the "rana bomb." Many long timers around here despise the Rana Bomb like no tomorrow, as it tends to end matches in very anti-climactic fashion and ruin late match ranas for lucha types.
It's an auto counter to frankensteiner/huracanrana type moves.
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Post by kikrusher99 on Aug 8, 2018 21:21:22 GMT
I had this happen one time with Sting. He instead countered into a Boston crab for the win. I wish it could go into the scorpion deathlock instead.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2018 21:39:43 GMT
I had this happen one time with Sting. He instead countered into a Boston crab for the win. I wish it could go into the scorpion deathlock instead. It's funny that Sting came up here. The last two times I had Sting wrestle Ric Flair in a major match on my game, he beat Flair by countering his superplex attempt into a Power Bomb off the top rope. Kind of fitting for the thread. |
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Post by Spunk on Aug 8, 2018 22:24:23 GMT
It's kind of the joy of Fire Pro? That there are ways for matches to end that are different, exciting and based off of real stuff that happens (or happened) in wrestling.
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Post by padrian on Aug 8, 2018 22:44:22 GMT
We call this the "rana bomb." Many long timers around here despise the Rana Bomb like no tomorrow, as it tends to end matches in very anti-climactic fashion and ruin late match ranas for lucha types. It's an auto counter to frankensteiner/huracanrana type moves. (Sigh) Yeah, that happened twice on the same card recently. First time it ended the match. I didn’t like it, not one bit. |
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Post by padrian on Aug 8, 2018 23:00:43 GMT
It's kind of the joy of Fire Pro? That there are ways for matches to end that are different, exciting and based off of real stuff that happens (or happened) in wrestling. My only issue is it’s visual execution. If the opposing wrestling looked like he was actively countering the rana, so it’s clear he’s powerbombing the guy. And not a deliberate rana designed to pin oneself. |
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Post by view619 on Aug 8, 2018 23:17:41 GMT
So, it looks like an obvious set-up to a rana reversal? Seems like a legit rookie move.
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Post by Senator Phillips on Aug 9, 2018 14:47:40 GMT
I wouldn't mind it nearly as much if it was only restricted to Power and Giant return styles, but it doesn't work well for some of the other ones it's assigned to.
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Post by amsterDAN on Aug 9, 2018 15:23:44 GMT
I wouldn't mind it nearly as much if it was only restricted to Power and Giant return styles, but it doesn't work well for some of the other ones it's assigned to. Precisely this. I quite like the move when a big blubbery bastard pancakes a skinny little luchador with it, but when one little luchador successfully pins another with it, it's dreadful. |
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Post by view619 on Aug 9, 2018 15:27:01 GMT
For what it's worth, Carl has a mod that allows you to adjust counters per style. So, you could modify the Rana counter for specific groups to eliminate Rana bombs.
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Post by padrian on Aug 9, 2018 16:56:16 GMT
I wouldn't mind it nearly as much if it was only restricted to Power and Giant return styles, but it doesn't work well for some of the other ones it's assigned to. Precisely this. I quite like the move when a big blubbery bastard pancakes a skinny little luchador with it, but when one little luchador successfully pins another with it, it's dreadful. I’ve seen marches with small guys like Dean Malenko catch an opponent who leaps onto his neck, then powerbomb him. BUT in those situations it’s clearly a powerbomb, involving exertion by Malenko. In FPW the wrestler just lifelessly bends over. |
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Post by dynamica on Aug 9, 2018 16:58:37 GMT
The animation for that reversal seems to be a holdover from 80s lucha/NJ/AJ Jrs matches. I understand the frustrations but it's never overly bothered me.
-DA
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Post by padrian on Aug 9, 2018 17:01:11 GMT
Also, in those pro matches it doesn’t end the match, not in the cruiserweight division anyway. It’s typically done for crowd pop.
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Post by padrian on Aug 9, 2018 17:02:31 GMT
The animation for that reversal seems to be a holdover from 80s lucha/NJ/AJ Jrs matches. I understand the frustrations but it's never overly bothered me. -DA It didn’f bother me either, until it recently ended two matches in the same card. Anticlimactically I might add |
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