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Post by Nth on Aug 15, 2022 19:12:26 GMT
When I applied to the plant there was a lineup around the building. The last two years our plant hasn't even been close to employment capacity. Now the company is offering employees a $500 bonus if they bring in someone to work and an additional $500 bonus if that person completes 6 months of training.
A lot of new employees aren't digging the call-in system and that first year of training pay. Company now has removed training pay and new employees will start at tier 1 employee pay which is good for them, it doesn't affect me though. The call-in system has now been adjusted. Instead of a 12 hour shift, call-ins will only be required to work 8 hours. Secondly the Monday call-ins have been completely removed due to that fact the scheduling works out so that whoever was working the day and night shifts on the Friday, Saturday and Sunday weekend would be on call for Monday making it possible they will have to work four shifts in a row, get 24 hours off and have to be back at work for another two shifts. Glad they changed it, but we're still petitioning for the call-in system to be completely removed and replaced with the voluntary overtime sheet, which we already have, but that should be the default system in place.
My crew has had a spate of retirements over the last few months with another one coming up September 1st. I just realized that with September being my ten year anniversary I only have about three people left in my crew, in my shop, with higher seniority than me. To me that's an insane realization. Especially with how much effort was put in to getting me removed the plant over my first three years.
People kinda wondering why I haven't moved on anywhere else in the plant and I always have to explain to them that promotions in the plant work based on your social credit score in the plant. Not even joking.
The system in place is a point based system where by doing more work and taking on more responsibility, you don't get paid more, you earn points. Then when you want to move to another position they look at your file and see if you have enough points to apply for another position. Absolutely sinister. It's no wonder our plant is now hiring people directly off the street into management positions instead of promoting people from within. Not a lot of people are interested in playing that game. The guy currently running my shop has never built a tire, knows nothing about tire building, has been here less than a year and will be giving me a performance review this fall; hilarious.
It's not that I'm not willing to move up in the company, but I expect to be compensated in cash, not magic beans. We have these mini-boss jobs called Spoke Duties. I've been asked multiple times over the years to take on one of these jobs. Sure, when you're willing to pay me.
We have an internal emergency response team made up of employees in the plant who have to give up days of their free time to take training courses and first aid training. I've been asked to join that multiple times. Sure, when you're willing to pay me.
Quality control, metrology, machine repair, all jobs that require more work and training, but the company refuses to compensate in anything other than imaginary points. So you get enough points to get 'promoted' to another job then you get some more points so you can apply for another position up the ladder in the future to earn some more points to move up some more. They literally developed an internal promotion system based on a score card and you get compensated with a higher score. Fucking amazing.
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Post by Shadow Master on Aug 24, 2022 6:27:09 GMT
Lately, my physical well being hasn't been the greatest. Nausea, lack of appetite, increased heart palpitations and anxiety. Yet, I found the one thing that has helped me cope (and reduce my stress levels) is by distracting myself with writing.
In my teenage years, I worked on and off at my dad's home renovation business. With the help of one other assistant, We mostly fixed up homes around the city's middle to upper class neighbourhoods; practically the only areas where a contractor could make an honest living.
Besides working nonstop from the early hours of the morning right into the evening, my biggest problem was travelling to work. More often than not, I would show up to the job before daylight. 1 bus route, 2 rail transit stops and 27 stops on the subway itself. Most times, not eating breakfast or getting a full night's sleep in the process.
For this particular story, I showed up to a job near the city's waterfront. The homeowners were a pleasant Ukrainian family that needed their living room and upstairs bedrooms painted. As per my usual custom, I would change on the job before work began. With work clothes in hand, I ended up changing in the basement out of view of the family. Conveniently, the basement was located below the house's small kitchen with the doorway imposed over the breakfast nook.
In full uniform, I walked upstairs, passed the family enjoying their breakfast and headed for the front hallway. Picking up a paint brush, my dad glanced over at me and quietly gestured for me to lean in closer. In a hushed aggravated tone, my dad murmured:
"fix your f*cking pants"
Being sleep deprived, I had just proudly paraded past a family having breakfast ....with my work pants on backwards.
So, the moral of the story? A cup of coffee goes a long way in the morning.
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Post by kokushishin on Sept 4, 2022 18:26:35 GMT
I have a lot on my mind about our opportunist suddenly "changing their mind." Of course, due to the person who okayed this now being gone there's probably a ton of shit heading their way that they can't sidestep now. But as usual other shit happened.
Derpy has a new plan. It's stupid and will probably backfire.
The third (or turd I should say) similarly has no concept. Literally griping about losing hours in the same breath as trying to go home early.
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Post by Nth on Sept 4, 2022 19:46:14 GMT
Just watching this video on twitter:
I've pretty much subscribed to the idea of 'Quiet Quitting'. That isn't to say you're not doing your job until someone notices and fires you. It's doing your job exactly to the specifications of your employment contract and no more and no less.
I remember my father giving me the advice that whatever job you have, be the first person to volunteer or be the first person to offer to go above and beyond and that by being pro-active in your career you'll find yourself moving from the bottom, upward fairly quickly.
This was probably some of the worst advice I ever got. Probably because Meritocracy doesn't really exist in most modern work environments any more. I'm sure it did at one point and still might in some places, but I've been working since I was 13 and have never experienced it. In fact it actually worked against me over the years. Being the guy to volunteer to do the dirtiest jobs only meant I was now defaulted to doing those jobs permanently, because a supervisor wouldn't have to go through the hassle of designating an employee who will complain about it.
The breaking point for me was seven years ago when the same supervisor who used to constantly threaten my job and call me in to work on my days off even when I wasn't on call and who I skipped all my breaks and lunches for and came into work sick or injured, called me into his office and told me "So I hear you're not doing any work." Whether this was someone else in the shop trying to get me in trouble or him just finding another way to harass me, I don't know. I had speculated that a lot of his hostility toward me was because he couldn't fire me so he was hoping to get me to quit.
That event completely changed my mentality to the work place. I'm killing myself for what? My wages aren't going to go up. I don't get a production bonus if I have a really good shift. Whether I build two units or two hundred units a shift I don't see a penny more or a penny less and the last five years the company has hardly promoted anyone from the labor force into management and have just been hiring people off the street who don't know anything about the business.
Our plant hasn't been at staff capacity in almost three years. There used to be people lined up around the building applying to get in here, but the wages have not kept up with inflation and the disparity between us and car builders used to be a wage gap of $4 and now it's around $20. They kept up with inflation over the years while we haven't.
The most we get is if we have perfect attendance for a year, we can wait six months and get a $200 pre-paid Visa card as a thank you. But it's always nice to hear the news about the executive branch of the company getting their multi-million dollar bonuses because profits were so good that year.
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Post by faulknasty on Sept 5, 2022 17:50:17 GMT
Just watching this video on twitter: I've pretty much subscribed to the idea of 'Quiet Quitting'. That isn't to say you're not doing your job until someone notices and fires you. It's doing your job exactly to the specifications of your employment contract and no more and no less. I remember my father giving me the advice that whatever job you have, be the first person to volunteer or be the first person to offer to go above and beyond and that by being pro-active in your career you'll find yourself moving from the bottom, upward fairly quickly. This was probably some of the worst advice I ever got. Probably because Meritocracy doesn't really exist in most modern work environments any more. I'm sure it did at one point and still might in some places, but I've been working since I was 13 and have never experienced it. In fact it actually worked against me over the years. Being the guy to volunteer to do the dirtiest jobs only meant I was now defaulted to doing those jobs permanently, because a supervisor wouldn't have to go through the hassle of designating an employee who will complain about it. The breaking point for me was seven years ago when the same supervisor who used to constantly threaten my job and call me in to work on my days off even when I wasn't on call and who I skipped all my breaks and lunches for and came into work sick or injured, called me into his office and told me "So I hear you're not doing any work." Whether this was someone else in the shop trying to get me in trouble or him just finding another way to harass me, I don't know. I had speculated that a lot of his hostility toward me was because he couldn't fire me so he was hoping to get me to quit. That event completely changed my mentality to the work place. I'm killing myself for what? My wages aren't going to go up. I don't get a production bonus if I have a really good shift. Whether I build two units or two hundred units a shift I don't see a penny more or a penny less and the last five years the company has hardly promoted anyone from the labor force into management and have just been hiring people off the street who don't know anything about the business. Our plant hasn't been at staff capacity in almost three years. There used to be people lined up around the building applying to get in here, but the wages have not kept up with inflation and the disparity between us and car builders used to be a wage gap of $4 and now it's around $20. They kept up with inflation over the years while we haven't. The most we get is if we have perfect attendance for a year, we can wait six months and get a $200 pre-paid Visa card as a thank you. But it's always nice to hear the news about the executive branch of the company getting their multi-million dollar bonuses because profits were so good that year. For me I saw my dad give everything he had for every job he had and they would just let him go whenever struggling times happened until he died unemployed because people thought he was too old to hire. So for almost the entire time I've been in the workforce the only time I put in the extra effort has been to keep my coworkers from having extra work and sometimes even then I wouldn't because it was just higher ups making us fill the place of 3-4 jobs for minimum wage or just above. That's also why I went into teaching because my work isn't about making someone else money it's about educating kids. I'm giving back to the community as part of my job. Some of the issues of higher ups putting more on us as they make all the money while not doing the real work is still there. I also have to put in extra work because I'm new to my subject and my school so I have a lot of lesson planning and what not to do. I'm all about the idea of only doing what you're required to do. You're doing the real work while they make the money. Fuck that.
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Post by jameshilliv on Sept 6, 2022 9:49:16 GMT
It's the people that get friendly with management that get the promotions. I'm not that kind of person. I don't come to work to make friends I go there to work, and I believe my work should speak for me. I didn't get a promotion once and was told it was because I didn't have enough experience, even though I had worked several different positions in the front and back of the store and at one point was a supervisor. The guy who got it had no supervisor experience and had only worked overnights, and mostly in the backroom. I didn't care that he got the position, but I hate that they lied to me.
I can't help but work hard. My goal at a job is to outwork everyone else. Not to impress anyone, just to be the best. But it has backfired in the past. I was on the truck crew, and eventually the truck crew lead. Every day we came in we had to clear the floor and set up for the truck. Then I went on to become the backroom supervisor on days. At that point the manager decided me and my crew needed to start setting up for the truck crew because it helped them to get the truck unloaded faster. Then, after spending several years working hard, I was exhausted and went to receiving. Before I went there, there were two ladies working receiving and they spent a good portion of their day sitting back watching me and my crew work and management never said anything. So I thought when I went there I would get to relax a little. I was wrong. Anytime I sat back to rest a little it seemed like there was a manager making me do the things I did for my previous position. Sure enough I had to start setting up for the truck crew because the new backroom supervisor couldn't get all of his work done. The worst part is the girl that I worked with in receiving got to sit around and nothing was said to her.
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Post by kokushishin on Sept 29, 2022 17:50:47 GMT
I have the feeling they put it off to try and weasel out of something else but the problem child is running into deep shit now.
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Post by kokushishin on Oct 6, 2022 12:35:49 GMT
So yeah, they didn't seem to learn anything about how their laziness is costing them. Add in some other general WTF moments and I'm just done trying to deal with them.
The other I feel a lot of disappointment. They are still trying to cling onto a bad idea and while a change of scenery might help other things, carrying that baggage is going to drag them down again.
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Post by kokushishin on Oct 15, 2022 14:19:04 GMT
A decision was made but nothing really changed with those two, if anything I'm just waiting for the next screwup.
On that note, someone was a little salty all week and honestly were pretty lax in dealing with a certain "TFG is here again" They tried to blameshift us but I guess my mood shifting from casual indifference to "ok, next time I will just go straight tol your boss instead" took the wind out of their sails.
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Post by kokushishin on Mar 11, 2023 14:11:46 GMT
Honestly been mostly more of the same for a while, but another "maybe there's a chance this isn't as terrible an idea as it looks on paper" is limping along.
The problem child in particular is stuck with someone with nearly identical habits so it's both amusing and sad to see them react to the same exact shit they pull.
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Post by kokushishin on Apr 9, 2023 11:26:40 GMT
Derpy is again trying to switch gears as surprise surprise, their great idea didn't exactly go according to plan. But with other moves happening they might get stuck for a while.
Somebody else tried to be underhanded. It didn't work. They had some misfortune later that I am not particularly sympathetic to. The problem child also tried to stir things up but hopefully by now everyone sees right through their nonsense.
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Post by Nth on Apr 23, 2023 9:34:49 GMT
Had my first raised voice disagreement in a few years.
Normally I'm one of the first people to arrive at work. Usually an hour early. I actually punch in and go sit in the Line Leaders office. It's where people all gather as they show up for work and where we have our morning meetings before a shift. Right after me the line leaders shows up, as they are required to be at work 30 min early anyway to get a count on stocks, get a report from the last shift, assign the crew to their machines on a posted sheet of paper and check the attendance call-in computer program to see who has called in sick for the day. If you call in sick, you're required to call in by 6:30 at the latest, with shift start at 7:00.
Now I usually don't look at the assignment sheet to see which machine I am running, as I have run the same machine for the last seven years. A lot of the veteran guys don't look at it either as they often run the same machines as well. So when 7:00 comes around we just walk out to our machines and start working.
So as usual we're in the office just casually chatting and much of the conversation before other people show up is him complaining to me about his job. Shortly after we show up two others show up, an older married couple who work in our shop, the husband also works on my machine. They arrive early as well because they have to drive over an hour to get to work. Then the second line leader shows up and the two line leaders start doing their computer work and attendance checks.
Anyway, a completely harmless remark from one of the line leaders escalated things in the room very quickly. A few shifts back one of the women didn't show up for work. She didn't call in and people just assumed she was there. Apparently she had been assigned to my machine and the line leader remarked that I hadn't let anyone know she didn't show up for work and that we were three hours into the shift before anyone realized she wasn't there. It was no biggie, I don't know if she overslept or called in sick later or whatever. She never showed up for the shift at all and I didn't even notice she wasn't there. It's a big shop and I don't even see more than half the people working in the shop the entire shift. But he says to me that 'we' (meaning myself or the new guy) gotta let him know if someone doesn't show up. Not unreasonable, I've even done that in the past.
Problem is, A: I didn't know she wasn't there because I don't keep track of my coworkers comings and goings because it's not my fucking job, and B: I didn't know she was supposed to be on my machine because I don't look at the assignment sheet to see where everyone is posted because I've been posted to the same machine for the last seven years. Most of the old crew doesn't even come down to the line leader office let alone look at the assignment sheet when they come in.
The new guy (from the married couple) doesn't look at the assignment sheet either because usually when we're sitting in the office together the line leader tells him what machine he is going to work on for the shift. So the tone of the remark was a little passive aggressive. "You need to call and let someone know when someone doesn't show up." the way he said it like he was scolding me even though I didn't do anything wrong. Myself and the other guy exchange looks and he says, "Well I'm going to leave that to someone with a higher pay grade than me." and I said, "Same." just because of his tone; the onus of attendance monitoring and workforce placement isn't mine. Come 7:00 I'm out there working, not wondering who has and hasn't shown up for work.
Then things got a little snappy. "Well you need to give one of us a call when that happens." Completely ignoring that I just explained to him why I didn't even know she wasn't there. I immediately said something to the effect that "I'm not responsible for monitoring coworkers attendance. In fact, if you want to get technical that's a line leaders job."
"Well I don't go up and down the shop checking to see if everyone is where they are supposed to be." He's getting loud now and I can tell he's getting pissed. I wanted to say "Maybe you should then, it's what you're getting paid for as the line leader." but I held back because I've never had a problem with this guy before and said "Well, neither do I. Since day one I was told at 7:00 I am to be running that machine and that's what we did."
"Well then you're going to end up running short handed." he snapped back at me louder and the others in the room are now dead silent.
The old me would have just said 'whatever.' and left it at that seeing he was getting agitated.
"I ran the machine with two people for almost an entire year and no one cared then, you think I give a shit if I run short handed? I'll run the goddamn thing by myself for the entire shift, every shift if I have too."
Oooh, for a guy that complains about the company as much as he does he didn't like that. He spins around in his chair back to facing the computer and just loudly says "Good! Glad to hear it!"
So I add on "I got my audiobooks, I plug in and go to work if people are on the machine or not. Whether I build 2 or 200 I get paid the same."
"Fantastic!" he says and goes completely quiet.
Some of the tension started to diffuse in the silence and other people started filtering in and changing the conversation, but I could tell he was butt hurt and the other line leader didn't say a word. I noticed during the shift that his machine broke down for a good chunk of this shift and when that happens you're supposed to go over and help out other machines and he and his little group just stayed at their machine talking. Not that I am complaining. I was completely honest about being happy to work on a machine by myself.
In the break room I told a few other people what had happened and one of them said he had pretty much had the same conversation with him a few months ago that got heated and that he agreed with me. It's not our job to monitor attendance.
The next shift I was the first one in as usual and sat down in the line leader office as usual and he came in 20 minutes later and everything seemed completely normal. While I'm sure he will always keep my voice of dissent in the back of his mind he doesn't seem like the type of guy who would look at retaliation like some of the other line leaders we've had in the past. But, even if he was, there's not much out there he could retaliate against me with aside from moving me to a different machine. He knows I like working on my machine and he knows other people in the shop hate it. I've been on it seven years and am accustomed to fixing bugs on it in minutes that other people have shutdown and called technicians to fix.
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Post by jameshilliv on May 28, 2023 1:50:13 GMT
Is it a prerequisite that to me an manager you have to be an idiot? My brother has been telling me about how dumb his management team is at his new job. He works overnights and when he started everyone on overnight were scheduled 12am to 8am. Then the manager decided to have everyone come in an hour early but he doesn't understand that midnight starts a new day. So, for example, someone who was scheduled for Tuesday a 12am would now be coming in Monday at 11pm. But the manager kept the same days and changed them from 12am to 11pm which means instead of working Tuesday, like he thinks they are, they are actually working one hour of Tuesday and into Wednesday. So one lady told the manager that because of the schedule change she was now working a day she needed off and needed her schedule changed. The solution after the manager, assistant manager and two supervisors looked over it was this. They have the lady scheduled to come in Thursday night at 11pm and Friday at 12am. So one hour after she starts her shift she is scheduled to clock in again and work another shift. The worst part is the managers and supervisors can't see the problem.
I have my own dumb boss moments too. I came back to a job I had before. I'm the outdoor maintenance at a truck stop. The manager was told how good I was when I worked there before and that's why he hired me back. So I thought he would leave me alone and let me do my thing, but I was wrong. Every time he saw me he would give me some stupid task to do or tell me to do the exact thing I was in the middle of doing. One day I was sweeping the garbage along a curb and the told me not to do it that way and to use a dustpan to pick up the garbage because I was just puching the trash around. I was going to explain that I was sweeping to garbage into a pile and after I had it all in the pile I would sweep it into the dustpan but I realized, "oh, he's an idiot." After that realization he became easier to deal with. One of my jobs is to pressure wash the diesel bays which I love doing. About a month ago a pipe burst and the outside water had to be turned off, meaning I can't pressure wash anymore. The bays are looking pretty bad but there's nothing I can do until the water is fixed. But three times now my boss has come out and told me that I really need to get the pressure washer out and clean the bays, and three times I have had to tell him that there's no water. The third time I actually mentioned that we've had this conversation before. I'm expecting to have the same conversation with him again next week. Does anybody else have stupid bosses like these?
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Post by kokushishin on Nov 26, 2023 6:41:31 GMT
Another addition came and went to the disappointment of my counterpart. A whole lot of effort, heart to heart talks etc. that went nowhere.
The problem child is in a put up or shut up after openly pining for a spot at another company backfired. Long story short, they are envious of somebody in a similar role here but they never tried to do the same trainings etc. Somehow from there they started latching onto and talking up others griping about being shorthanded. Ended up with a pile of paperwork and a short deadline.
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Post by kokushishin on Dec 10, 2023 5:41:26 GMT
Now that a certain matter is "official" this year seems to be ending as anticlimactic as it began.
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