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Post by LankyLefty17 on Dec 4, 2019 1:41:36 GMT
But its not about the content. Its about whether they can sell advertising and collect information from the kids that are watching it. Those guys can still do their thing, they just can't collect ad revenue for it.
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Post by Severla on Dec 4, 2019 1:54:27 GMT
The whole point of COPPA fines on content creators is that if you're not flagged as 'child-content' and everything points to you are child content, which currently the FTC and YouTube can freely determine by way of the law-rulings, you're going to get fined and heavily penalized for it.
That's why everyone is in a shit-fit over it. YouTube broke the law then blamed the content and the FTC agreed with it. The entire point of the situation going forward IS about the content.
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Post by faulknasty on Dec 4, 2019 2:04:09 GMT
The whole point of COPPA fines on content creators is that if you're not flagged as 'child-content' and everything points to you are child content, which currently the FTC and YouTube can freely determine by way of the law-rulings, you're going to get fined and heavily penalized for it. That's why everyone is in a shit-fit over it. YouTube broke the law then blamed the content and the FTC agreed with it. The entire point of the situation going forward IS about the content. It's about content being aimed at kids to get data for advertising. It's not about protecting kids from mature content |
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Post by LankyLefty17 on Dec 4, 2019 2:10:28 GMT
The whole point of COPPA fines on content creators is that if you're not flagged as 'child-content' and everything points to you are child content, which currently the FTC and YouTube can freely determine by way of the law-rulings, you're going to get fined and heavily penalized for it. That's why everyone is in a shit-fit over it. YouTube broke the law then blamed the content and the FTC agreed with it. The entire point of the situation going forward IS about the content. It's about content being aimed at kids to get data for advertising. It's not about protecting kids from mature content This. Youtube was sued for grabbing kids data for advertising without consent. Now stuff labeled as "for kids" is blocked from accessing user information (and will impact ad revenue). It has nothing to do with mature content being pushed as kid friendly.
This will totally impact the Logan Ryan's of the world since they can't honestly say they're not targeting kids, which means they wont be able to generate ad revenue from them (theoretically, the law was written very poorly), but the main purpose was to stop kids data from being used for advertising. |
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Post by faulknasty on Dec 4, 2019 2:22:06 GMT
I would just like to add this is all YouTubes fault for violating the law but in their settlement they passed the problem onto the creators. That's the real bullshit.
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Post by LankyLefty17 on Dec 4, 2019 2:28:53 GMT
But they also made Cobra Kai so.... even steven?
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Post by Severla on Dec 4, 2019 2:52:45 GMT
It's about content being aimed at kids to get data for advertising. It's not about protecting kids from mature content Okay, let me go edit my post to better clarify the discussion because y'all got way too hung up on me saying Logan Paul was doing mature shit while being aimed at children. I also pointed out 'Ryan ToyReviews' for being a target and that content isnt remotely mature, but is the prime example of what they're out to attack, but that seems to have been ignored. COPPA attacked YouTube for selling ad revenue for kids, but YouTube has turned it into an attack on content creators by shifting the blame. The reason I note that mature content creators that are heavily watched by children are affected is because they are. If COPPA/YT finds your content to be mis-labeled you'll eat a 42 thousand dollar fine per video and then be changed to a kid's channel flag, which nearly 100% demonetizes your channel. Logan Paul was my example because his channel would've clearly fallen under 'not for kids' but he's clearly marketing to kids and getting ad revenue off of them, which is now what YouTube wants to do away with; you're one or the other and you'll be getting rump-roasted if you mislabel. |
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Post by faulknasty on Dec 4, 2019 3:45:10 GMT
I don't know anything about the Ryan toysreviews other than a quick search I found that he was flagged for not claiming content was sponsored which is another issue so that's why I didn't mention him.
As for the other point is I wonder how much someone will get in trouble for putting mature content out as for kids since that doesn't violate the main point about gathering data on children since that is the point of marking for kids.
But yeah as I mentioned I think it is dumb that that he wouldn't get fined for his mature content marketed at kids but instead fined for having his content marked as not for kids but viewed as being targeted to kids.
I'm upset that it's just advertising bullshit is getting in trouble for instead of the fact that some fucked up shit can get through as kids content.
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