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Post by view619 on Aug 17, 2018 13:48:16 GMT
Requests: - Small NJPW Logo parts for the chest, separating the border lines and inner graphic. Position would be over the left breast, like what you would see on a referee's shirt.
- Large NJPW logo part for the back, separating the border lines and inner graphic. Position would be in the direct center of the back.
"Bribe": Check the mod forum later today :P
Needed for all size chests, just male, just one size or what? When you say border lines and inner graphic, do you mean one pieces for the "outer wheel" with letters and one for the lion? Since the normal graphic has both red and yellow letters and a red and yellow lion, wouldn't it be better to do a color version? Or a four-piece, upper ring, lower ring, lion main and lion lines? Just saw this post, if you're still interested just a logo for medium chest would be fine. For layers, I meant one for the outer wheel + text and one for the lion. A version that users can recolor freely would be ideal in case you want to alternate between black+ white and the standard red + yellow. If you think it would work better when split into the four layers that you suggested, then please feel free to use those instead. I'm not skilled in graphics design, so I'll defer to your knowledge on details like that.
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Post by heelsinc on Aug 17, 2018 14:23:11 GMT
Oh, shit! Yeah. Still L I guess. Koloffs brody at times ive seen
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Post by Old School Oni on Aug 17, 2018 20:46:50 GMT
Needed for all size chests, just male, just one size or what? When you say border lines and inner graphic, do you mean one pieces for the "outer wheel" with letters and one for the lion? Since the normal graphic has both red and yellow letters and a red and yellow lion, wouldn't it be better to do a color version? Or a four-piece, upper ring, lower ring, lion main and lion lines? Just saw this post, if you're still interested just a logo for medium chest would be fine. For layers, I meant one for the outer wheel + text and one for the lion. A version that users can recolor freely would be ideal in case you want to alternate between black+ white and the standard red + yellow. If you think it would work better when split into the four layers that you suggested, then please feel free to use those instead. I'm not skilled in graphics design, so I'll defer to your knowledge on details like that. Basically, pure white is color editable to a full range of the in-game color choices. Anything not pure white is going to have a very limited spectrum as the default color sort of works like an overlay. If I made this image in color, the reds and yellows would be right but it would have little usable recoloring options and both the red and yellow would change at the same time, potentially making it ugly if you did get it to recolor If I made this image, it would show like this by default and could be changed to red and black, yellow and black, etc. but it would always be something and black. Also, you couldn't make it red and yellow since the white would recolor uniformly - you could make it all red or all yellow but not both. So I think I would either make both images in their "final form" (black and white, red and yellow), or I'd have to make 4 white layers - one to be red, one to be yellow, one to be white and one to be black, to represent the 4 colors present in the full logo. Which way I go would depend on how easy it is to separate the colors into independent layers. If not easy, I may wimp out and just do a color logo, then do the black and white version. I doubt I would separate the ring from the lion, however, as it looks like the red and the yellow are both used in both parts. Make sense?
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Post by view619 on Aug 17, 2018 21:40:51 GMT
Makes sense, thanks.
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Post by Old School Oni on Aug 18, 2018 21:53:55 GMT
Who requested La Parka at Fire Pro arena? Sorry I can't remember (sure sign I took too long to get around to this). I built this out of one of the two reference pix provided but am seeing a ton of competing options. I don't know if it's because he's has such a long career or because they've given the gimmick to more than one wrestler but as someone that doesn't follow him, it's a little confusing. I went with 5 layers - a partial face to make the neck black and have eyes/nose/lips showing through, the main face layer, the red design on his forehead (in white, color editable), the hood (my Demolition hood with the most minor altering), and a solid color editable hood trim. Let me know what you think. I see the trim is jagged some times, smooth some times. All the reference pix were close to head-on so I don't know if I've guessed right about width for side views. At any rate, tell me if it's ready to post or needs tweaked in some way.
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Post by crippler19 on Aug 18, 2018 21:57:22 GMT
That was me! looks good in that pic! The hood outline I think is usually jagged but honestly I don’t think it’s a big deal unless it’s an easy change. Only thing from that pic, and it’s hard to tell, is the eye look a little far apart? But again that may just be the pic. BTW, that mask design is the original La Parka design. Which is still used by the La Parka in AAA, he got the gimmick after the original (who was in WCW) left. The original is now LA Park and 99% of the time uses the Darth Marth looking face mask. LA Park (he's still great) on the left, La Parka (hes' not very good) on the right.
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Post by Old School Oni on Aug 18, 2018 22:25:21 GMT
That was me! looks good in that pic! The hood outline I think is usually jagged but honestly I don’t think it’s a big deal unless it’s an easy change. Only thing from that pic, and it’s hard to tell, is the eye look a little far apart? But again that may just be the pic. BTW, that mask design is the original La Parka design. Which is still used by the La Parka in AAA, he got the gimmick after the original (who was in WCW) left. The original is now LA Park and 99% of the time uses the Darth Marth looking face mask. LA Park (he's still great) on the left, La Parka (hes' not very good) on the right. Sorry, Crippler, I was thinking it was either you or Ripper but couldn't remember which. I used the art style picture you posted at the old board but had to resize it, so it's possible the eyes ended up further apart than they should be. I will look at the psd file and see if that layer can be narrowed without impacting anything. I'll also look closer to confirm if both eyes from the underlying face are making it through the holes since that's what will matter most. :) I'll take a look at the trim and see if I can do a new layer with jags; if it's not too hard to get it fairly uniform, I'll give it a shot, but smooth was definitely easier. Is the Maul mask the other image that was posted at Arena? I'll confess I don't have it any more. But if you can get me a good direct front shot of that one, I will take a stab at it as well.
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Post by crippler19 on Aug 18, 2018 22:41:40 GMT
That was me! looks good in that pic! The hood outline I think is usually jagged but honestly I don’t think it’s a big deal unless it’s an easy change. Only thing from that pic, and it’s hard to tell, is the eye look a little far apart? But again that may just be the pic. BTW, that mask design is the original La Parka design. Which is still used by the La Parka in AAA, he got the gimmick after the original (who was in WCW) left. The original is now LA Park and 99% of the time uses the Darth Marth looking face mask. LA Park (he's still great) on the left, La Parka (hes' not very good) on the right. Sorry, Crippler, I was thinking it was either you or Ripper but couldn't remember which. I used the art style picture you posted at the old board but had to resize it, so it's possible the eyes ended up further apart than they should be. I will look at the psd file and see if that layer can be narrowed without impacting anything. I'll also look closer to confirm if both eyes from the underlying face are making it through the holes since that's what will matter most. :) I'll take a look at the trim and see if I can do a new layer with jags; if it's not too hard to get it fairly uniform, I'll give it a shot, but smooth was definitely easier. Is the Maul mask the other image that was posted at Arena? I'll confess I don't have it any more. But if you can get me a good direct front shot of that one, I will take a stab at it as well. greatly appreciate the time and effort, Oni. Here's Park's Darth Maul design. He's in the middle of a hot run right now (working the main event of AAA TripleMania and maybe the main event of CMLL's Anniversary show) so the timing is great too!
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Post by Old School Oni on Aug 19, 2018 0:03:46 GMT
I've narrowed the mask a bit and added another trim line (wider and more jagged). This is released as LaParka.tex in my google drive if you want to take it for a test spin. I'll work on a Maul version of the mask tonight (no promises on the hood but maybe I can add some soft spikes to a few of the views). Can you do me a favor? Can you add the new parts to an appropriate La Parka edit and post a link or picture, so I can do a "proper" release in the first post of this thread? Thanks!
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Post by crippler19 on Aug 19, 2018 0:30:30 GMT
For sure. I’ll do it tonight.
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Post by crippler19 on Aug 19, 2018 2:20:03 GMT
It looks good! I did notice in a few frames that the outline pattern isn't filled in (see pics). Only other thing and it's not a big deal is maybe adjust the black around the face. at 0% highlight it's very dark and at 25% it's pretty grey. Hard to get a skeleton body suit design that I liked but you get the idea. The design on the original La Parka's later body suit looks much better. More pics
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Post by Old School Oni on Aug 19, 2018 3:22:30 GMT
Yeah, looks like someone didn't scroll all the way down on the sprite sheet. Sorry about that. Fixing it now while working on the Maul mask.
Will also see what I can do about the black around the face.
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Post by Old School Oni on Aug 19, 2018 4:11:04 GMT
New version of the tex file posted. 2b is the Maul Mask and 7 is a shot at the weird little pieces on the L A Park hood. Not sure if I like it, but it's there if you want to use it. Haven't looked at it in game but seemed ok in edit mode. On that note, I did what I could to make sure I filled in the rest of the jagged trim piece and tried to make the 25% highlight a little closer to black. LMK if it works. Once we get it right, I'd like preview pix for both La Parka and LA Park please, so I can update the front page. I'll admit, seeing the complete edit is kind of making me want to put him in my game. But I don't think I have a good spot for him. My 90's roster is extremely thin so unless he fought for the J-Crown or the Triple Crown, he's probably not going to make the cut. But he does look sweet. You did a really nice job on him.
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Post by crippler19 on Aug 19, 2018 14:57:28 GMT
¡La authentica!
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Post by Old School Oni on Aug 19, 2018 17:48:14 GMT
Muy bien! First post updated accordingly.
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