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Post by Phil Parent on Aug 25, 2018 23:56:34 GMT
I've just had two people telling me I don't do a good job, I want to know if that opinion is shared by many.
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Post by Phoenix Nitro on Aug 26, 2018 0:14:27 GMT
If you're representing this community, you should probably start with rebranding the @.
Secondly, you should stop posting personal opinions and speculation, it makes the community look bad as a whole. I've had several people bring me tweets and ask what the hell is up with this community. You're treating the account as a personal twitter, and it reflects badly on all of us as a collective.
C-Drive was the best at his role as community head, he promoted the forum daily. He showed off new projects, daily. He showed when people in the community were going live. He never posted speculation or personal opinions like you've done, and he certainly never spent the majority of the time promoting personal projects.
If you're going to be a community account, be one and take all of your personal opinions and speculation onto your personal account. Keep the twitter that represents all of us as unbiased and pure factual as possible, thanks.
Also. Change the @. We are the Critical Club, not the Fire Pro Club.
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Post by Princess Pepperoni on Aug 26, 2018 0:19:40 GMT
I feel the main issue with the account is that it reflects your personal views. Your personal views aren't necessarily reflective of the Critical Club community as a whole. For instance, feeling upset over not getting an advanced copy and throwing shade at YouTubers doesn't reflect on our community in a positive manner. Nagging the developers by tagging them over it just further spreads unneeded negativity in an already stressful situation. When C-Drive ran the FPA twitter, it was a hub of strictly Fire Pro information along with community happenings. He would retweet streams, videos, and new threads showcasing the happenings going on throughout the community. Rarely, if ever, did he express any personal grievances regarding the community, nor did he feel the need to call out the developers just to appease himself.
You've done a great job in terms of posting news, and posting updates on your own personal project on reviving edits from earlier games, but it would be better to leave your personal opinions on a personal account where it's okay to express how you feel.
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Post by Phil Parent on Aug 26, 2018 1:10:51 GMT
That's okay. You have a point there.
I'll let you guys decide where the account goes. No hostility or whatever.
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Post by Spunk on Aug 26, 2018 1:21:23 GMT
Social media management is tough, especially when it's for free.
I'm not gonna tell you if I think this tweet was off or if that one misrepresents the community or whatever, because, honestly, whatever.
I've done it professionally for a while now and I can give you a few pointers.
-- Inject personality into what you say without making it about you. Straight forward twitter accounts are boring and nobody reads them. But at the same time, if it's a twitter for a community or entity, it isn't your personal one, either. It's a tightrope act in a lot of ways because people want to see personality and to feel like they're interacting with a human being and not a boilerplate, but they also don't expect to be dealing with an individual's opinions and life and whatever.
-- Personal interaction is always better. If someone is tweeting at you and you want to engage or signal boost, tweet back, quote tweet, etc. Don't just fav/RT because a good portion of people have direct RTs/fav notifications turned off because, well, they tend to not be super helpful to most people reading their timeline. Don't go crazy doing this because it can be super time consuming, but also try to enjoy it?
-- Direct the conversation. Fire Pro World is launching on PS4 in a few days in the west? Cool, get people talking about it. Want to see what people think about the delay? Cool, make a poll.
-- Try not to take it personally. Social media is... Yeah. You can't make everyone happy and especially for something like this, it's not a paid thing, just do your best and be transparent about everything, maybe even ask the community what they want to see represented on there, etc.
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Post by sluggbugg on Aug 26, 2018 1:29:46 GMT
Wow. This community smh
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Post by sluggbugg on Aug 26, 2018 1:36:30 GMT
So much negativity. So who will takeover the acct now? Does the community have any say in that?
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Post by Phil Parent on Aug 26, 2018 2:10:01 GMT
Nah, if people are unhappy with it and feel it's unrepresentative then I'd rather not be on there than do a lousy job.
Will give me more time for the Anthology, the Almanac and whatever else I might do on here.
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Post by Zealot on Aug 26, 2018 2:32:38 GMT
Not much to go off here since the tweet(s?) was/were deleted so I really don't know what triggered this to begin with. However, if it is from the standpoint that you used your own personal bias to disagree about something while using an account viewers perceive to be the official community account, then I couldn't agree more with what Officer Brightly and Phoenix Nitro have already stated.
I always considered your Twitter when it pops up on my feed as your own personal account going back to when we were all still at Fire Pro Wrestling Arena. That's fine and dandy.
I think the main problem though is that now we are part of a new forum in Critical! Club, you re-labeled the account as Critical! Club, and you "drive the company car" for the community. These are all signs that would make viewers believe it's the official account of the community. Impartiality and promotion of the brand would be the norms people would expect from that considering the standards C-Drive strived to make with the Arena Twitter.
For the record, I don't have a problem with you driving the company car as long as you don't crash it. We've been through enough trauma with that in the past.
If you feel the need to make a change (which you appear to have done with that account), then that's fine. I'll support the community and the games we love either way.
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Post by Phil Parent on Aug 26, 2018 2:43:05 GMT
I still drive the company car by the way. You'll pry those keys from my cold dead hand. It's a 1986 Dodge Aries. Love my 1986 Dodge Aries, I worked long and hard to get it.
It's because I drive the company car so to speak (I own the domain here, that's all I do, I asked to not actually run anything on the board...) that I think that if people feel I do a lousy job and that it's not representative then somebody else should do it. I'm cool with that. I was cool with that very quickly.
I still do the Anthology and the Almanac and all. On here. I'm CC through and through.
The era of people going rogue and starting wars over such meaningless stuff is through in this community, at least it should be, and I'm sure as hell not gonna do it. That one time I tried to calculate the age average of the facebook page and it was north of 35. I'd expect people to act like it, and I do here.
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Post by TheDenizen on Aug 26, 2018 19:30:08 GMT
what is an @fireproclub?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2018 1:30:59 GMT
This isn't directed at you Phil Parent but there is an issue with the some of the top people in the community being overtly negative to the point that it's affecting others. There's nothing wrong with being frustrated or angry at what's going on but try to remember that you aren't just screaming into the void. There's an audience reading and some of those people may be influenced by what you write, in a manner you may not want them to be. If you talk about how Spike are such motherfuckers for not sending you an advance copy, that narrative of "Spike are motherfuckers" may stick around for way longer than the feelings you're venting in the moment. Same with saying that you hope the game dies a quick death.
You may not care about the NJPW content but that's no reason to bring down others who are excited.
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Post by ripper on Aug 28, 2018 11:20:25 GMT
I liked the account. Honestly, if the "board" account is really just ran by the dude that owns the board, I don't see a bit of a problem with it reflecting that dude's opinions. For you to try and be representative of the whole community seems fucking impossible and just doing "fluff" tweets seems boring. I saw someone on Twitter suggest you just spotlight great edits, but honestly I already check out the workshop at least once a day and look through all the new stuff. Bottom line, it's your party and you can cry if you want to.
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Post by Mr. Dogmeat on Aug 28, 2018 12:04:34 GMT
Phil Parent IS Fire Pro and you are all just gonna have to deal.
I blindly trust you Phil to represent me as a community member, or as my legal counsel.
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Post by mbxfilms on Aug 30, 2018 1:34:23 GMT
I would guess it's that the old twitter retweeted all sorts of Fire Pro stuff and maybe people feel they don't get the added bump anymore?
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